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Trump Just Pardoned ... a Corporation?

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  • B [email protected]

    I don’t think evil is part of the human condition.

    Humans have complex language, and are capable of learning, adjusting behaviour, and building culture over time.

    Capitalism is a system that teaches and enforces greed and exploitation. It’s natural for endpoint is the destruction of our environment and the enslavement of humanity.

    But if we lived under a different system that was not capitalism and instead fostered sustainable, egalitarianism, while also allowing us to cooperatively build technology to improve our lives, I believe this is something that we could build a culture around. It’s not that we’re pre-programmed a certain way and always destined to fall into the same trap…. Just when you create and enforce a system that expects infinite growth within a finite system, that forces people to compete over and hoard resources then of course you’re going to get greed, exploitation, and eventually collapse.

    Another world and another way of being is possible if we build it over time.

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    Dolphins and killer whales are capable of all the things you describe. So are all great apes.
    Chimpanzees are capable of genocide. It's not even human nature. It's just nature.

    Are you familiar with Dunbar's number? The problem isn't how people organize, it's how many people organize. You get groups too big, the human empathy module short circuits and starts ignoring other humans as such...

    You know what other animals can organize in large collaborative groups and not fight each other? Ants, bees and mole rats. Eusocial animals.

    The problem with eusocial animals is they divide into genetically determined castes... So nature has shown us it's either small packs or become a drone for the hive, and the problem with small pack is that larger packs destroy them.

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      Kinda makes sense no? Corporations are people and are treated as such in courts.

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      If people have death penalty, corporations should also have one

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        If people have death penalty, corporations should also have one

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        Businesses have been sued out of business before. Not QUITE what you mean, but the ends still the same.

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          HDR Global Trading, parent company of BitMEX

          You're welcome. Fuck paywalls, and fuck clickbait that buries the actual info behind the paywall.

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          And what was being pardoned:

          "In what may have been a first, Trump pardoned a corporation. The company to earn that distinction was a cryptocurrency exchange sentenced to a $100 million fine for violating an anti-money laundering law."

          Setting a precedent of excusing money laundering really does just feel like "I want to destroy the country" with not a whole lot else going on.

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          • pudutr0n@feddit.clP [email protected]

            haha why not?

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            Nuance is dead on social media.

            It isn't that bad, yet, on Lemmy but it gets to the point where people just scream past each other and because of things like default ranking comments by vote instead of a timeline whoever can get/bot the most votes wins and the other person is cast into the oblivion of "Click here to see more comments".

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              HDR Global Trading, parent company of BitMEX

              You're welcome. Fuck paywalls, and fuck clickbait that buries the actual info behind the paywall.

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              i have never known the intercept to paywall stuff?

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              • P [email protected]

                This is some serious unprecedented bullshit. Especially when their charge was money laundering. Basically he is making money laundering legal. Go ahead and break the law. Trump will pardon you...

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                At the end of his first term, Trump was selling pardons for $1,000,000. I wonder how much money he charges for a pardon now.

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                • B [email protected]

                  i have never known the intercept to paywall stuff?

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                  I didn't either. But that was maybe because I was a long time subscriber...

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                  • O [email protected]

                    Thank you! I immediately wondered if OP was a shill since s/he also didn't name the company in the title or summary.

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                    I didn't realize it was paywalled. I didn't see it because I was a subscriber.

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                      Nuance is dead on social media.

                      It isn't that bad, yet, on Lemmy but it gets to the point where people just scream past each other and because of things like default ranking comments by vote instead of a timeline whoever can get/bot the most votes wins and the other person is cast into the oblivion of "Click here to see more comments".

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                      #42

                      That's horrible but yeah... sounds right.

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                        HDR Global Trading, parent company of BitMEX

                        You're welcome. Fuck paywalls, and fuck clickbait that buries the actual info behind the paywall.

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                        There is no paywall. It does require you provide an email. Doesn't have to be a real email, just email format.

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                          There is no paywall. It does require you provide an email. Doesn't have to be a real email, just email format.

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                          I did some testing. The form accepts anything in the format @.* so long as each * segment only contains appropriate characters. The domain itself doesn't need to be real, but the suffix needs to be real.

                          "[email protected]" works.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            I didn't realize it was paywalled. I didn't see it because I was a subscriber.

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                            Don't post subscription shit

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                            • B [email protected]

                              i have never known the intercept to paywall stuff?

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                              Add 12ft.io/ in front of the URL. It's a proxy that bypasses paywalls.

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                                There is no paywall. It does require you provide an email. Doesn't have to be a real email, just email format.

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                                It does require you provide an email.

                                Yeah, fuck that. Extra unnecessary steps.

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                                  I did some testing. The form accepts anything in the format @.* so long as each * segment only contains appropriate characters. The domain itself doesn't need to be real, but the suffix needs to be real.

                                  "[email protected]" works.

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                                  Suffix? You mean the TLD?

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                                    Suffix? You mean the TLD?

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                                    Yes, the TLD. Wasn't really sure if most people would know what a top-level domain is.

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                                      Add 12ft.io/ in front of the URL. It's a proxy that bypasses paywalls.

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                                      I feel like that site only works 10% of the time

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        This is some serious unprecedented bullshit. Especially when their charge was money laundering. Basically he is making money laundering legal. Go ahead and break the law. Trump will pardon you...

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                                        Oh, I remember Citizens United

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                                          I feel like that site only works 10% of the time

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                                          I've had much better luck with archive sites, but they can be slow.

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