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Trump says US will 'go as far as we have to' to get control of Greenland

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  • M [email protected]

    Push back how?

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    You lack imagination.

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      I can’t believe so many people voted for this deranged game show host.

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      • weirdgoespro@lemmy.dbzer0.comW [email protected]

        Goddamn we suck so hard right now.

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        Don't even have to ask if we are the baddies

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          Kind of the whole point of nuclear dissuasion is that we are not, in fact, going to ever do that. And ignoring the existence of nukes (lol), attacking the US on their hometurf is such a monumentally stupid idea people still wonder what went through the Japanese High Command's mind 80 years ago.

          Stop asking Europe for help, because you're not getting it. You've alienated your allies and broken your democracy beyond repair. Either use that 2nd amendment of yours to the fullest extent of its spirit or STFU with the "pwease stop him we're scawed :(((" rhetoric. We have way more reasons to be scared because we don't live next door to white cishet male Americans to shield us from his madness. Stop with the victim blaming. Either you stop this child or he starts a war with your assent.

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          If Trump was only an America problem, I would say the same thing you are saying.

          I'm fine if the world attacks the US just enough so that Trump recedes to only the US.

          What I am saying is that if Trump is making threats to the world, the world should take it seriously and deal with it now instead of letting him push boundaries without repercussions. His threats are going to just get bigger and hurt more people than when the threats are smaller.

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          • cosmicrookie@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

            Danish news today talked about Trump and his people maybe not being aware of this. They are sure that the US consulate on Greenland has informed them but they are not confident that the administration even knows this.

            I think that they are either being naive, kind or sarcastic

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            Hanlon’s Razor doesn’t apply to fascists.

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              I don't want Greenland, I just want you to stop bombing kids and work on our Healthcare. Why on the fuck are you even looking at Greenland????

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                Don't even have to ask if we are the baddies

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                Yeah, I think that's one of the scariest things. Previous presidents have done a lot of terrible things, but there's always been a basic rhetoric of morality- at oeast a pretence that official policy us "the right thing".

                The US's latest bunch of clown have openly hateful and dishonest language, without any sense of shame. I don't even think we've seen the beginning of the level of cruelty a country can achieve when it suddenly abandons any rule of law or accountability.

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                  I don't want Greenland, I just want you to stop bombing kids and work on our Healthcare. Why on the fuck are you even looking at Greenland????

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                  Best I can do is a Central American shooting war.

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                  • E [email protected]

                    When the hell will the military arrest this stinky Orange Turd as an enemy to the state?

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                    They're on board with him. Invasions create job security for them. The military won't care until they're told to fire on Americans, and even then a large part won't care, as long as they're firing on the "wrong" kind of people.

                    There is no way this lunacy ends in a civil arrest.

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                      It's all crazy talk until the flights of American troops and equipment start landing for an occupation force.

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                      Scary times ahead for all, and Americans will struggle the most.

                      Well, except for the innocent people who will be invaded...

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                      • houseofleft@slrpnk.netH [email protected]

                        Yeah, I think that's one of the scariest things. Previous presidents have done a lot of terrible things, but there's always been a basic rhetoric of morality- at oeast a pretence that official policy us "the right thing".

                        The US's latest bunch of clown have openly hateful and dishonest language, without any sense of shame. I don't even think we've seen the beginning of the level of cruelty a country can achieve when it suddenly abandons any rule of law or accountability.

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                        "but there's always been a basic rhetoric of morality- at oeast a pretence that official policy us "the right thing""

                        That's what they taught me in school. It's absolutely bullshit. This country was built on genocide to perpetrate slavery. It's a warmongering nation that destroys other countries to ensure its own economic dominance on the world stage.

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                          All of a sudden the conservative rhetoric is that indigenous Greenlanders are mistreated by the Danes and that’s unfair; they need America’s help.

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                          I wonder how much of Regressive rhetoric and propaganda comes straight out of the heritage foundation. Where is the epicenter of the cancer?

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                            When the hell will the military arrest this stinky Orange Turd as an enemy to the state?

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                            Complicity tends to be the norm until things get really bad.

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                            • A [email protected]

                              Whole lotta minerals that will get a lot easier to exploite as the planet warms.

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                              Mining minerals to turn into phones so I can read about how bad of an ecological impact it is to mine minerals to turn into phones.

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                              • B [email protected]

                                I wonder if Americans will wake up and start to push back when they and their families start dying for this stuff. Taking over other countries means death and not just to those who are being taken over.

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                                It took soldiers freezing and dying in Stalingrad to realize Hitler didn't care about them.

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                                  I'm in a similar boat. I hate that these people have turned me into someone who has such disdain and hatred for individuals. I hate that they've made me into someone who wakes up everyday with a deep-seated desire to read about their deaths.

                                  I fucking hate it. I don't want to be that person.

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                                  I've developed misanthropic tendencies over the last couple of years.

                                  I find this lyric sums it up pretty well

                                  "I used to see beauty in people
                                  But now I see muscle and bones"

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                                  • sarcasticman@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                    He just announced foreign vehicle tariffs and there is a huge scandal brewing around the Signal thing. If the media stays on the Signal leak it could become a Watergate-sized problem.

                                    So, Trump hit the "distract them with Greenland" button. He couldn't use the "distract them with Canada is a state" button again, he used that one for the Social Security thing last week.

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                                    Yeah he led an insurrection against the capital bro. Do you really think a group chat will be his downfall?

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                                      I think it’s really dangerous to keep dismissing the Greenland talk as a distraction. We have learned the lesson dozens of times before not to dismiss anything he says because it’s just “crazy talk.”

                                      Taking control of Greenland and Canada would give a US-Russian alliance complete control over the Arctic circle, which has been a tactical goal of Putin’s for decades.

                                      The day could come very soon when the US will take military action against Europe on behalf of Russian interests, and the rest of the world should take it seriously and prepare.

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                                      I remember talking to this dude before Russia invaded Ukraine. He said Russia brought all the troops to the border for a military training exercise. I asked him where he learned that. He told me Russian state media... It's amazing how gullible people are. Like truly so innocent and trusting.

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                                        Yeah he led an insurrection against the capital bro. Do you really think a group chat will be his downfall?

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                                        Nowhere in there did I say it would bring down Trump. If it gets the media traction that it should get, it could split the Republican base enough to disrupt the Right's hold on the House and Senate in November. I don't think it will, though. The Greenland distraction has pretty much drowned it out. JD is over there going hard for his daddy, and we are not even through the weekend yet. As the old man said, "We will see."

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                                          When the hell will the military arrest this stinky Orange Turd as an enemy to the state?

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                                          If he actually orders an invasion of Greenland I'd put the odds at around 12%. My guess is around 60% the military will refuse to carry out the order (it would be after all in violation of the War Powers Resolution unless congress approves), then 80% chance Trump will back down. Of course that's if he gives the order, my guess of that is around 30%, reducing the odds of a greenland-related coup to around 4%. In reality the most likely path is that once the military explains to Trump that they want congressional approval, he'll lose interest and go on to scaring us some other way.

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