Zelensky Visits KSA
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Why is zelensky talking to scum like him? This fuck should never be accepted anywhere.
Fuck MBS.
Saudi Arabia is an important nation not only because of oil but also because of Mecca and Medina’s importance to Islam.
I have no idea why you would think a nation shouldn't attempt to have congenial relations with another nation especially if that nation needs support from others.
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Russia fucks with OPEC pricing a lot so there isn’t a ton of love between them.
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Saudi Arabia is an important nation not only because of oil but also because of Mecca and Medina’s importance to Islam.
I have no idea why you would think a nation shouldn't attempt to have congenial relations with another nation especially if that nation needs support from others.
MBS is a butcher, he should be shunned. This is a necessary evil, but is still disappointing.
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MBS is a butcher, he should be shunned. This is a necessary evil, but is still disappointing.
Idealism has little place in foreign relations once you have to deal with the real world. We have to ally ourselves with people we find distasteful because our nations need to be tied for various reasons. It is childish to think your personal feelings about a national leader should impact your nation’s diplomatic relations.
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I don't like MBS but if they help Ukraine, I'm all for it.
I don’t like politicians whose name is abbreviated like that anyway
Signed, DAM
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Idealism has little place in foreign relations once you have to deal with the real world. We have to ally ourselves with people we find distasteful because our nations need to be tied for various reasons. It is childish to think your personal feelings about a national leader should impact your nation’s diplomatic relations.
As i said, this is a necessary evil. That does not change reality. MBS is a brutal dictator with an iron fist over the whole middle east, and he is a murderer. I think all countries should be moving away from saudi arabia, not closer to it.
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As i said, this is a necessary evil. That does not change reality. MBS is a brutal dictator with an iron fist over the whole middle east, and he is a murderer. I think all countries should be moving away from saudi arabia, not closer to it.
“That does not change reality. MBS is a brutal dictator with an iron fist over the whole middle east.”
That is not true. He is the Prime Minister of KSA. He is the presumptive leader but is not on paper the reigning monarch. KSA does not have an iron fist over other Middle Eastern nations as some have little to do with KSA and others are too powerful themselves to kowtow to KSA such as Egypt or Israel.
“I think all countries should be moving away from saudi arabia, not closer to it.”
And I have already mentioned why this is unrealistic and childish. When you have to face these situations IRL you don’t have the option to avoid dealing with people you find distasteful.
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I don’t like politicians whose name is abbreviated like that anyway
Signed, DAM
It's abbreviated because there's like 50 kebab dictators all named "Mohammed Bin Something" and it's annoying to spell out the whole name to disambiguate them
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Thanks for the explanation. This is severely disappointing to see, but it's a necessary evil.
Wasnt their main role as a mediator for negotiations?
Zelenskyy met with the kingdom’s powerful crown prince Monday evening, with the president saying they “had a detailed discussion on the steps and conditions needed to end the war and secure a reliable and lasting peace.”
“Saudi Arabia provides a crucial platform for diplomacy, and we appreciate this,” Zelenskyy said online.
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I don’t like politicians whose name is abbreviated like that anyway
Signed, DAM
Martin Butter Sing?
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MBS wants to increase the diplomatic footprint of SA. It is likely they want to be the ones that facilitated a cease fire in Ukraine, rather than defend a democracy against imperialism.
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Saudi Arabia is an important nation not only because of oil but also because of Mecca and Medina’s importance to Islam.
I have no idea why you would think a nation shouldn't attempt to have congenial relations with another nation especially if that nation needs support from others.
Saudi Arabia is not exactly popular among Muslim people around the world. In particular with them embracing US influence, funding Daesh and other murderous groups and of course supporting Israel in its oppression and mass murder of Palestinians, MBS has a very bad reputation.
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Saudi Arabia is not exactly popular among Muslim people around the world. In particular with them embracing US influence, funding Daesh and other murderous groups and of course supporting Israel in its oppression and mass murder of Palestinians, MBS has a very bad reputation.
Source on the Saudi government funding DAESH? That claim makes little sense as like Al Qaeda DAESH wishes to overthrow the Saudi state.
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Martin Butter Sing?
Mohammed Bone Saw
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It's abbreviated because there's like 50 kebab dictators all named "Mohammed Bin Something" and it's annoying to spell out the whole name to disambiguate them
How many world leaders are named 'Bin Salman'? I'm pretty sure just one.
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I don’t like politicians whose name is abbreviated like that anyway
Signed, DAM
DAM, son
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Source on the Saudi government funding DAESH? That claim makes little sense as like Al Qaeda DAESH wishes to overthrow the Saudi state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_the_Islamic_State
Website The Daily Beast in June 2014 accused wealthy donors in Saudi Arabia and Qatar of having funded IS in the past.[45][46] Iran and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki have accused the governments of Saudi Arabia and Qatar of funding the group.[47][45][48] Ahead of the pro-Iraq, anti-IS conference held in Paris on 15 September 2014, France's foreign minister acknowledged that a number of countries at the table had "very probably" financed IS's advances.[49] According to The Atlantic, IS may have been a major part of Saudi Arabian Bandar bin Sultan's covert-ops strategy in Syria.[50]
See https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/06/isis-saudi-arabia-iraq-syria-bandar/373181/ for the Citation 50
Also see https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-qa-is-saudi-arabia-funding-isis for an overview of various US internal documents where the US government itself accused Saudi Arabia of funding Daesh at least in the beginning.
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Mohammed Bone Saw
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Why is zelensky talking to scum like him? This fuck should never be accepted anywhere.
Fuck MBS.
Why is zelensky talking to scum like him?
Same reason he was sitting across from JD Vance and Trump to begin with. Any port in a storm.
Fuck MBS. This is disappointing to see.
Its a predictable response when you recognize that the Saudis are largely an extension of western hegemony in the region. I wouldn't be surprsied if someone like Rex Tillerson or Liz Cheney brokered the meeting.
