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Gnome merges Global Shortcuts

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  • that_leaflet@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

    Already merged there some time ago.

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    I can't find any documentation on how to set it up, do you happen to know where that would be?

    I can't figure out how to setup discord push to talk on kde wayland, specifically

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    • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

      I can't find any documentation on how to set it up, do you happen to know where that would be?

      I can't figure out how to setup discord push to talk on kde wayland, specifically

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      Apps need to add support for the new portal system. Chromium is adding (or added?) support, so Discord may implement it once they use an Electron version with support.

      If you’re using KDE, you can tell Discord to use X11 and use KDE’s feature to let X11 apps snoop on key presses.

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      • A [email protected]

        Xorg global shortcuts will work for anything using Xwayland, but not in anything thats wayland native

        For example, in a game (using wine, which uses Xorg by default currently) your global shortcut will work. But in a wayland native window like Firefox, it will not if its the active window

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        Are you sure about that? KDE has a feature that lets Xwayland apps snoop if certain keys are pressed, but Gnome does not.

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        • that_leaflet@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

          Are you sure about that? KDE has a feature that lets Xwayland apps snoop if certain keys are pressed, but Gnome does not.

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          Yeah. The behavior i stated was how it works in Gnome. In KDE since Xorg passthrough is a formal thing, the behavior is different based on those options

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          • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

            Does anyone know what the status on KDE implementing this is?

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            #21

            It was implemented over two years ago.

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            • P [email protected]

              Discord didn't take very long to add it at all, what took a long time was fixing audio streaming.

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              #22

              Umm yes, they did take ages to support it. It took like 7 years...

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                It was implemented over two years ago.

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                #23

                I can't find a way to manually add entries in the settings, is there no way to do that?

                How would I manually enable push to talk in discord, for example?

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                • that_leaflet@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                  Apps need to add support for the new portal system. Chromium is adding (or added?) support, so Discord may implement it once they use an Electron version with support.

                  If you’re using KDE, you can tell Discord to use X11 and use KDE’s feature to let X11 apps snoop on key presses.

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                  I don't understand why they wouldn't allow you to manually override things, i hope this gets added later, i'd like to be able to forward shortcuts to apps for push to talk even if the app doesn't support the native portal

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                  • Z [email protected]

                    Umm yes, they did take ages to support it. It took like 7 years...

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                    tbf, Wayland was hardly relevant for some of that. the first feature request I found was 4 years go. implementing it also required upgrading electron a few versions, so a decent bit of work.

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                    • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

                      I don't understand why they wouldn't allow you to manually override things, i hope this gets added later, i'd like to be able to forward shortcuts to apps for push to talk even if the app doesn't support the native portal

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                      Because if it is freely overridable, other apps can override it as well - including malicious apps.

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                      • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

                        I can't find a way to manually add entries in the settings, is there no way to do that?

                        How would I manually enable push to talk in discord, for example?

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                        You can't. Apps need to support shortcuts in order to receive them...

                        For Discord, the X11 compatibility page has working options though.

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                        • V [email protected]

                          Because if it is freely overridable, other apps can override it as well - including malicious apps.

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                          I didn't say it should be freely overridden, I said I should be able to manually override it

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                          • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

                            I didn't say it should be freely overridden, I said I should be able to manually override it

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                            Yes, but that amounts to the same thing. The restrictions that prevent you from manually overriding it are there to prevent any app from freely overriding it. There's a way to only explicitly allow you to manually override it, and that's the way that's currently being built and requires ecosystem support.

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