The Volkswagen ID. EVERY1 is an affordable EV for the masses
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This is why there are no plans to try to sell something like this in the US. I drive three hours each way on day-trips fairly often, and a couple times a year I drive around 1000 miles per day for longer trips. Even people who live in cities with short commutes often want to travel to places several hours away pretty regularly. Here you can drive for hours and hours and hours and not even leave the state. It's not like we can take a train either.
couple times a year I drive around 1000 miles per day
You can use the savings of having a $20k city car to rent a $70k monster car a couple of times per year, and come out way ahead. You probably need more luggage space on those trips anyway.
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Ehhh I think it is. You should pretty much expect all of those things from any new car.
Consumers have spoken and they don't care about privacy, reliability or repairability.
A lot of that isn't known until nearly the last minute. Especially any of the hard metrics like mp/kwh, range, and especially any infotainment specifics.
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A lot of that isn't known until nearly the last minute. Especially any of the hard metrics like mp/kwh, range, and especially any infotainment specifics.
There's nothing on that list that will be unique to this vehicle.
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155 mile range, well that's a local commuter car, that's it. The masses need things besides a local commuter car.
That's 2 days of the longest work commute I've ever had. If the owner drives their daily then comes home and plugs it in I doubt it will ever be a problem. I've never heard range complaints from anyone that actually owns an ev either. There's also a lot of people that have brought up road trips but none of the ones I know IRL have gone on road trips with their gas cars. I can't see it as much more than people just don't want to give up their cancer fumes.
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This is why I'm more looking forward to the id.2, this actually looks like a good one for the price https://www.volkswagen.nl/modellen/id-2all
They won't stop until even the pedals are touch buttons, are they?
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It'd be a decent deal now, but this launches in 2027, by which point this would be underwhelming.
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couple times a year I drive around 1000 miles per day
You can use the savings of having a $20k city car to rent a $70k monster car a couple of times per year, and come out way ahead. You probably need more luggage space on those trips anyway.
The car I drive was only $22k new and it's able to drive moderate jeep trails and get me deep into the forest and up mountains on unmaintained roads/trails which when I'm not on a trip for work, that's where I'm going. You can't rent vehicles like that in my area. I have a Thule hard sided cargo carrier on the roof to hold the extra gear.
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Funny how you're asking questions that no real human cares about when shopping for car...
What do your people ask then? "Does it come in red too?"
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What do your people ask then? "Does it come in red too?"
The average person doesn't give a crap about all the privacy stuff, they care about range, how it drives, the warranty, the options.
People who care about privacy will never win this fight because normies will keep buying the cars.
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They won't stop until even the pedals are touch buttons, are they?
I really don't mind it, having driven a Tesla for a year it wasn't bad at all.
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I really don't mind it, having driven a Tesla for a year it wasn't bad at all.
Well I drive a heavily touch-screenified car, and I hate it. Have had the damn thing for almost a year but I still get nervous when I have to adjust the A/C.
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That's 2 days of the longest work commute I've ever had. If the owner drives their daily then comes home and plugs it in I doubt it will ever be a problem. I've never heard range complaints from anyone that actually owns an ev either. There's also a lot of people that have brought up road trips but none of the ones I know IRL have gone on road trips with their gas cars. I can't see it as much more than people just don't want to give up their cancer fumes.
It's totally fine if it works for people, but I regularly drive long distance, and limited range means planning everything around that.
I have been looking at aptera, which might have longer range due to being aerodynamic and efficient. That's what I want to see offered more for EVs. Problem is, it's not a reality until it's available for sale.
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Yes I understand what a concept car is. That changes nothing about my comment because it wasn't about this specific car.
They might but only if they're building something new for their entire range.
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Dacia is a small Romanian brand with a single plant, so learning that some are rebranded Renaults from China is quite surprising.
It might also surprise you to learn that Dacia is actually a large French conglomerate.
They've been fully owned by Renault for more than two decades.
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Well I drive a heavily touch-screenified car, and I hate it. Have had the damn thing for almost a year but I still get nervous when I have to adjust the A/C.
Understandable, most car companies have garbage software (the Yaris I drive now included). Tesla is just leagues ahead at this point and I hope VW is gonna improve a lot looking at their mockups
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The problem is that the battery degrades, so it's a good idea to keep it charges to 60-80% so that it last way longer. If you have 600 miles of max range then that means you can easily have 360-480 miles for your driving. This is overkill as well right ? Wrong, if you live in a cold climate it practically gets halved so now you have 180-240 miles of driving.
Let's say it's summer though, now you want to drive 600 miles to your nearest ocean/sea and want to sightsee along the way. With a battery that big you might have to charge once and not even fully to have enough confidence driving to places where charging might be limited.
That's why smaller batteries make sense only if you use the car for daily commuting, now you need to rent or buy a proper long range gas car or ev car - which now costs you quite a bit more or adds inconvenience. With tesla the problem is almost solved, but they have problematic political views and minimalistic interiors and a max battery of 402 miles. So yeah I think it's worth it to make a car that costs 3x what VW are pushing, but is useful to everybody.
The problem is that the battery degrades, so it’s a good idea to keep it charges to 60-80% so that it last way longer. If you have 600 miles of max range then that means you can easily have 360-480 miles for your driving. This is overkill as well right ? Wrong, if you live in a cold climate it practically gets halved so now you have 180-240 miles of driving.
Fine, but you still fail to look how the car is used. A battery that big also mean more weight (and thus more energy needed) and it can make sense if you use the car almost always for longer trips. For shorter drive it make more sense to have a smaller battery and recharge more often.,
Let’s say it’s summer though, now you want to drive 600 miles to your nearest ocean/sea and want to sightsee along the way.
Here you fail to consider the target market. EU and US are very different geographically. In US a car with bigger batteries can make sense, in EU probably not that much.
VW simply design a car for the market where they want to sell it, which make sense in my opinion.With a battery that big you might have to charge once and not even fully to have enough confidence driving to places where charging might be limited.
That would be a problem anyway, with limited charging options you could arrive at the sea but then have problem returning home (but this is a problem that is slowly going away)
That’s why smaller batteries make sense only if you use the car for daily commuting, now you need to rent or buy a proper long range gas car or ev car - which now costs you quite a bit more or adds inconvenience. With tesla the problem is almost solved, but they have problematic political views and minimalistic interiors and a max battery of 402 miles. So yeah I think it’s worth it to make a car that costs 3x what VW are pushing, but is useful to everybody.
I don't know how may miles you need to drive for your daily commute that need to have such big battery but in the supposed target market of the VW even a 180 miles battery can easily cover your weekly commuting.
So yes, you are right that a bigger battery is usefull but it really depend on where you plan to sell your car. Not everywhere you need that kind of mileage daily and you need also to consider other factors like the weight and size of the car.
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Is it just me or is that the worst name for a car in the history of the automobile?
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EVs don’t need fancy brakes because they use regenerative braking.
I am not sure that in EU you can omologate a car wihout classic brakes.
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Launches in 2027 lmao
By that time Chinese evs will be flying or smt
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Yes I understand what a concept car is. That changes nothing about my comment because it wasn't about this specific car.
They're not going to create entirely new ones just for this vehicle.
If you read the article (I know, controversial) you'll see that that's exactly what they're suggesting they're doing, yes.
Personally I wouldn't hold my breath that it'll be better, but it is going to be completely different to their current software stack.
