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Quantum mechanics might have the solution to joystick drift

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  • alphane_moon@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27880332

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    Magnets do too

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    • alphane_moon@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

      cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27880332

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      Pretty sure there's already a solution

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      • alphane_moon@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

        cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27880332

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        I got a Gulikitt KK3 Max and have really liked it so far. I got one because I got tired of having to resynv my Elite 2 to the PC via Bluetooth (it NEVER saved it as a device, some kinda issue I imagine switching from Xbox connection to BT), and I wanted to try to get out of the Elite 2 swap every 7 months. No complaints so far, other than I can't monitor battery level. I like the back paddles more too, they are more spaced than the Elite.

        Hall effect sticks, swappable ABXY mechanical buttons, and the triggers can be mechanical switch with the trigger stops engaged. Really nifty controller.

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        • dacotaco@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

          Im not saying i disagree, im saying its more complex than "just a few cents".

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          I'm disagreeing. It's really that simple. 60mil fewer dollars from 1 billion in revenue over 8 years (these are your numbers) is still "just a few cents"

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          • alphane_moon@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

            cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27880332

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            My ps1 controler have not gotten stick drift in.. how long now? 30 years?

            Is that a lost technology like in sci-fi books?

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              Magnets do too

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              Did you even read the article? This solution also uses magnets but requires smaller magnets and its more sensitive and the response curve is more linear than with Hall effect sensors. So it’s more accurate than Hall effect sensors, smaller and uses less power.

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                Pretty sure there's already a solution

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                Read the article. This is an improvement over Hall effect sensors.

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                  Did you even read the article? This solution also uses magnets but requires smaller magnets and its more sensitive and the response curve is more linear than with Hall effect sensors. So it’s more accurate than Hall effect sensors, smaller and uses less power.

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                  Ahhh you got me

                  Just read it but still magnets already do it I’m just saying

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                    Did you even read the article? This solution also uses magnets but requires smaller magnets and its more sensitive and the response curve is more linear than with Hall effect sensors. So it’s more accurate than Hall effect sensors, smaller and uses less power.

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                    Is accuracy or size even an issue with hall effect sensors? Hall effect sensors can have plenty of resolution and can also be small, the PSVita 1000 had hall effect sensors and those are smaller than the switch joycons

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                    • 30p87@feddit.org3 [email protected]

                      And a switch costs, MSRP, ~300€/$. So they just got 45,000,000,000, 45 billion dollars. Or, in other words: They could raise the MSRP by 6$. Which would be justified for a then better product.

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                      They are never going to sell a product like that for €306 or whatever. They'd probably bump it up to €349 in that case

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                        My ps1 controler have not gotten stick drift in.. how long now? 30 years?

                        Is that a lost technology like in sci-fi books?

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                        Idk man.

                        30 years ago this came out.

                        The traditional controller for PS1 didn't have joysticks. You needed a DualShock for that, or it's predecessor the Dual Analog controller.

                        But yeah year or two here there, the DualShocks and PS controllers after that were very good controllers.

                        But those first decent ones came out more like at the turn of the millennium than halfway through the 90's as you imply.

                        Back then it ps1 without joysticks and from 96 on N64 with extremely shitty joysticks. Gamecube came out in 2001 and Nintendo had clearly learned it's lesson — to an extent.

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                        • 30p87@feddit.org3 [email protected]

                          Also, Hall effect fixes all problems, since decades. Why weren't they used widely? Because that would cost poor little Nintendo/M$/Sony a few cents more. So they sure as hell won't implement that new thing.

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                          Hall effect sensors are crazy expensive. Sony has controllers with them and they're more than twice as expensive as the normal ones. It's very unlikely that Sony would set this insane price without a good reason.

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                            Hall effect sensors are crazy expensive. Sony has controllers with them and they're more than twice as expensive as the normal ones. It's very unlikely that Sony would set this insane price without a good reason.

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                            It's very unlikely that Sony would set this insane price without a good reason.

                            1000043595

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                              Is accuracy or size even an issue with hall effect sensors? Hall effect sensors can have plenty of resolution and can also be small, the PSVita 1000 had hall effect sensors and those are smaller than the switch joycons

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                              These new type of sensors require less power so that’s the biggest advantage. But them needing smaller magnets probably could mean they can be manufactured cheaper than Hall effect sensors. The increased accuracy and size shrinkage is just a bonus on top.

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                              • dasus@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                Idk man.

                                30 years ago this came out.

                                The traditional controller for PS1 didn't have joysticks. You needed a DualShock for that, or it's predecessor the Dual Analog controller.

                                But yeah year or two here there, the DualShocks and PS controllers after that were very good controllers.

                                But those first decent ones came out more like at the turn of the millennium than halfway through the 90's as you imply.

                                Back then it ps1 without joysticks and from 96 on N64 with extremely shitty joysticks. Gamecube came out in 2001 and Nintendo had clearly learned it's lesson — to an extent.

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                                My original Dualshocks as well as Dualshocks 2 from back in the day still have no stick drift

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