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  • killeronthecorner@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

    Mullvad is one of those services that just works and I never worry about whether my server's connection has fallen over. It's fairly priced, transparent, and doesn't abuse my privacy or trust. They never try to lure me into buying more/bigger/better like pretty much every company does now. Much like my water supply, I literally forget that the underlying solution exists because it so reliably does it's job.

    Feeling the same about Tailscale recently, but this comment is bait to find out if I'm wrong! Not paying yet but considering it.

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    Tailscale is a VPN in the classic sense, I e. to build a secure network over an insecure one. Mullvad is a service to hide your public IP address and switch from having to trust your ISP to having to trust Mullvad.

    I too have a subscription to one of the latter services, but I always find them sketchy

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      Tailscale is a VPN in the classic sense, I e. to build a secure network over an insecure one. Mullvad is a service to hide your public IP address and switch from having to trust your ISP to having to trust Mullvad.

      I too have a subscription to one of the latter services, but I always find them sketchy

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      Yes I know, that's why I use both for different purposes

      I mean whether TailScale is more similar to Mullvad in business model and customer centrism, or whether the early signs of enshittification are already there (I haven't seen any red flags to date)

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      • killeronthecorner@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

        Yes I know, that's why I use both for different purposes

        I mean whether TailScale is more similar to Mullvad in business model and customer centrism, or whether the early signs of enshittification are already there (I haven't seen any red flags to date)

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        Ok, I don't really know why I wrote all that because it was pretty clear from context you know the difference. Hopefully it helps others.

        For me, Mullvad isn't an option because they don't have port forwarding anymore.

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          Ok, I don't really know why I wrote all that because it was pretty clear from context you know the difference. Hopefully it helps others.

          For me, Mullvad isn't an option because they don't have port forwarding anymore.

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          I found it useful, thanks for posting!

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          • lyra_lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zoneL [email protected]

            Here's the thing. The reason ads are bad is because almost every single one is for a product that will exploit the user. Mullvad is a product that does the opposite. They ask for money, but don't force it. They intend to give power of the user's life back to the user. Thus, some ads are actually okay. Ads about VPNs, self hosted systems, anti-corporate anticapitalist services, software that is for you to use and only ever takes telemetry for software improvement, and then only if you consent first.

            Hell, before this garbage, on TV the only ads were products and charities, and everybody grew really sick of the African child ads because its sole purpose was to exploit the viewer's empathy and get their money. Same with now, except if it's not money they want it's data, and data is money to them.

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            Nah, the reason ads are bad is because they poison your mind down to the unconscious parts. It doesn't matter if the company behind it is moral or not, it's still memetic pollution.

            Edit: For the record I don't have a huge issue with this post being here, but I wanted to chip in with my opinion that ads are bad even if you separate them from the product they're advertising.

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              Seen in a SF Muni station

              Edit to add: Jeez, relax. I was on my way home from a doctor’s appointment and saw that ad. It made me chuckle so I posted it here.

              If seeing this post really upsets you, take some deep breaths and keep scrolling. With any luck, you’ll have fully healed in a couple of days.

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              Mullvad disabled port forwarding. Bad for torrents. That was when everyone I know stopped using it.

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                Mullvad disabled port forwarding. Bad for torrents. That was when everyone I know stopped using it.

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                Still a good VPN for other stuff

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                • killeronthecorner@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                  Yes I know, that's why I use both for different purposes

                  I mean whether TailScale is more similar to Mullvad in business model and customer centrism, or whether the early signs of enshittification are already there (I haven't seen any red flags to date)

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                  When Tailscale turns to shit then we have Netbird as an alternative

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                  • killeronthecorner@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                    Mullvad is one of those services that just works and I never worry about whether my server's connection has fallen over. It's fairly priced, transparent, and doesn't abuse my privacy or trust. They never try to lure me into buying more/bigger/better like pretty much every company does now. Much like my water supply, I literally forget that the underlying solution exists because it so reliably does it's job.

                    Feeling the same about Tailscale recently, but this comment is bait to find out if I'm wrong! Not paying yet but considering it.

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                    They never try to lure me into buying more/bigger/better like pretty much every company does now.

                    Windscribe enters the chat.

                    Biggest mistake I ever made was signing up for them. just the constant daily emails trying to be "funny" to get me to return.

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                      Surpressing sponsors is a perverse incentive too; all the more reason to not disclose who's paying the creator.

                      And yeah, any 'moral' justification for web ads is dead like 100 times over. I hate how hard it makes life for 'old web' style sites with like one innocent banner ad, but still.

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                      Are you saying creators should not disclose their sponsors? If so...

                      I disagree, we need more transparency about finances of companies in the world. If a sponsor can pay somebody like LinusTechTips 40k a video to promote their video, than that means we as a consumer are overpaying for the product.

                      In a lot of European countries you can just see an annual report of a company which you can use to say filter out dropshippers since they generally spend a lot on ads and marketing.

                      We aren't going to be able to stop ads on the web unless we start paying subscriptions for everything and that is a good way to get a lot of people into financial trouble.
                      I also wish we could more easily go back to simple websites with no tracking and barely any ads.

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                        Seen in a SF Muni station

                        Edit to add: Jeez, relax. I was on my way home from a doctor’s appointment and saw that ad. It made me chuckle so I posted it here.

                        If seeing this post really upsets you, take some deep breaths and keep scrolling. With any luck, you’ll have fully healed in a couple of days.

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                        Mullvad is great, only VPN i'll ever use. I'm just a random number to them. no emails, no names, nothing. Hell I can even just pay them in cash if I wanted. Their service has improved too. on some wifi networks it would take me a couple minutes to connect but now it's instant. Soon as I boot into my WM just "mullvad connect" in the terminal and I'm good to go.

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                          Mullvad disabled port forwarding. Bad for torrents. That was when everyone I know stopped using it.

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                          What VPN is left that I can use to host my website with open ports 80 and 443 ?

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                            What VPN is left that I can use to host my website with open ports 80 and 443 ?

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                            None I assume. No sane VPN provider will let their users do that.

                            edit: Maybe I should clarify? AirVPN supportswport forwarding but obviously not for 80/443. 99 out of 100 that shit is going to be hosting nono porn.

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                              Mullvad disabled port forwarding. Bad for torrents. That was when everyone I know stopped using it.

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                              Not being able to host my web apps made it a no for me

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                                Mullvad is great, only VPN i'll ever use. I'm just a random number to them. no emails, no names, nothing. Hell I can even just pay them in cash if I wanted. Their service has improved too. on some wifi networks it would take me a couple minutes to connect but now it's instant. Soon as I boot into my WM just "mullvad connect" in the terminal and I'm good to go.

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                                They should hire you!

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                                  What VPN is left that I can use to host my website with open ports 80 and 443 ?

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                                  For other ports, you can use AirVPN. For 80 and 443, rent a cheap vps and use it as a reverse proxy, then point it to your actually open ports. Or just host on the cheap vps.

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                                    Lol, people have post-reddit PTSD if they think you're a shill. Maybe if/when Lemmy hits the mainstream but man, we're so off the radar most marketers have no idea this place exists.

                                    It's a waste of money unless you're advertising something for Linux and/or communism... which would be a bit of a paradox, lol

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                                    If I ever start selling any software I'll gladly market it on Lemmy, but only because it would be a privacy preserving alternative to some enshittified existing service.

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                                      Mullvad disabled port forwarding. Bad for torrents. That was when everyone I know stopped using it.

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                                      Yep. This here

                                      They pussied out

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                                        Mullvad is great, only VPN i'll ever use. I'm just a random number to them. no emails, no names, nothing. Hell I can even just pay them in cash if I wanted. Their service has improved too. on some wifi networks it would take me a couple minutes to connect but now it's instant. Soon as I boot into my WM just "mullvad connect" in the terminal and I'm good to go.

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                                        Honestly that sounds great. I'm kind of annoyed how often NordVPN keeps emailing me and trying to upsell me on the daily.

                                        The service is fine overall. But the nonstop promotion, along with it being a US company that can easily just give all their info to the US government, makes me wanting to switch pronto.

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                                          Mod here . I found this amusing, and op is good sport, so fuck y'all I'm leaving it up. 😁

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                                          Appreciate this.

                                          That's how classic Reddit was for me.

                                          Mods who are extremely rigid to the rules had to exist when the spammers went crazy. But with smaller communities, modding should be based on vibes. You get better conversations that way.

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