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  • T [email protected]

    This can't be true...... Businesses wouldn't reshape their entire portfolios, spending billions of dollars on a technology with limited to no utility. Ridiculous.

    Anyways, I got these tulip bulbs to sell, real cheap, just like give me your house or something.

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    Remember, investment in LLM infrastructure on the US is currently larger than consumer spending.

    And they will cut interest rates soon, so expect the number to go up (the investment number, that is, not value).

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      AI does not exist. Large language models are not intelligent, they are language models.

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      The phrase AI has never actually meant that though? It's just a machine that can take in information and make decisions. A thermostat is an AI. And not a fancy modern one either. I'm talking about an old bi-metallic strip in a plastic box. That's how the phrase has always been used outside of sci-fi, where it usually is used to talk about superintelligent general intelligences. The problem isn't that people are calling LLMs AI. The problem is that the billionaires who run everything are too stupid to understand that difference.

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      • yozul@beehaw.orgY [email protected]

        The phrase AI has never actually meant that though? It's just a machine that can take in information and make decisions. A thermostat is an AI. And not a fancy modern one either. I'm talking about an old bi-metallic strip in a plastic box. That's how the phrase has always been used outside of sci-fi, where it usually is used to talk about superintelligent general intelligences. The problem isn't that people are calling LLMs AI. The problem is that the billionaires who run everything are too stupid to understand that difference.

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        I would argue that, prior to chatgpt's marketing, AI did mean that.

        When talking about specific, non-general, techniques, it was called things like ML, etc.

        After openai coopted AI to mean an LLM, people started using AGI to mean what AI used to mean.

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          People with no clue about AI are exactly why a dumb-as-a-brick LLM could very well end up destroying the world.

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          No, that scenario comes from AI's use in eliminating opponents of fascism

          It's pretty funny that while everyone is whining about artist rights and making a huge fucking deal about delusional people who think they've 'birthed' the first self aware AI, Palantir is using our internet histories to compile a list of dissidents to target

          Screenshotting for my eventual ban.

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            AI does not exist. Large language models are not intelligent, they are language models.

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            It's pretty funny you think LLMs are the only implementation of machine learning

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              I've never really liked this meme. I quite dislike AI, but just because your NN sucks doesn't mean NNs or AI in general is fundamentally poor.

              I often write very poorly performing programs due to mistakes, lack of knowledge, or just general incompetence. That doesn't mean all my programs perform poorly. It certainly doesn't mean all your programs perform poorly.

              "AI" sucks for a lot of reasons, but so does this image.

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                I would argue that, prior to chatgpt's marketing, AI did mean that.

                When talking about specific, non-general, techniques, it was called things like ML, etc.

                After openai coopted AI to mean an LLM, people started using AGI to mean what AI used to mean.

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                To common people perhaps, but never in the field itself, much simpler and dumber systems than LLMs were still called AI

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                  They will destroy jobs first, then the rest will simply unravel.

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                    I would argue that, prior to chatgpt's marketing, AI did mean that.

                    When talking about specific, non-general, techniques, it was called things like ML, etc.

                    After openai coopted AI to mean an LLM, people started using AGI to mean what AI used to mean.

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                    Doom enemies had AI 30 years ago.

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                      The current capabilities are only indicative of future improvements. It says nothing about how capable it will be in the far future.

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                        Doom enemies had AI 30 years ago.

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                        But those weren't generated using machine learning, were they?

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                          But those weren't generated using machine learning, were they?

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                          So? I don't see how that's relevant to the point that "AI" has been used for very simple decision algorithms since for along time, and it makes no sense to not use it for LLMs too.

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                          • O [email protected]

                            You're both right. Capitalism accelerates climate change but so does the outrageous electricity requirements of LLMs.

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                            If it weren't for Capitalism, those LLMs would have been designed with a lower climate impact from the get-go. But since that hurts the shareholders bottom line, they aren't.

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                              I would argue that, prior to chatgpt's marketing, AI did mean that.

                              When talking about specific, non-general, techniques, it was called things like ML, etc.

                              After openai coopted AI to mean an LLM, people started using AGI to mean what AI used to mean.

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                              Does that mean that enemy AIs that choose a random position near them and find the shortest path to it are smarter than chatgpt? They have been called AI for longer than i played games with enemies

                              You can also disprove the argument by just using duckduckgo and filtering from before OpenAI existed https://duckduckgo.com/?q="AI"&df=1990-01-01..2015-01-01&t=fpas&ia=web

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                              • yozul@beehaw.orgY [email protected]

                                The phrase AI has never actually meant that though? It's just a machine that can take in information and make decisions. A thermostat is an AI. And not a fancy modern one either. I'm talking about an old bi-metallic strip in a plastic box. That's how the phrase has always been used outside of sci-fi, where it usually is used to talk about superintelligent general intelligences. The problem isn't that people are calling LLMs AI. The problem is that the billionaires who run everything are too stupid to understand that difference.

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                                A thermostat is an algorithm. Maybe. Can be done mechanically. That's not much of a decision, "is number bigger?"

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                                  The thing is, AI doesn't need to take over the world if the BiG tHiNkErS are so eager to replace humans regardless of its merit.

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                                    It's all about selling the ideology of AI, not the tools actually being useful.

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                                      No, that scenario comes from AI's use in eliminating opponents of fascism

                                      It's pretty funny that while everyone is whining about artist rights and making a huge fucking deal about delusional people who think they've 'birthed' the first self aware AI, Palantir is using our internet histories to compile a list of dissidents to target

                                      Screenshotting for my eventual ban.

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                                      That's crazy! That can't be real!

                                      On an unrelated note, I've recently got into machine learning myself. I've been working on some really wacky designs. Did you know that you can get 64gb gpu modules for super cheap? Well, relatively cheap compared to a real GPU. I recently got two Nvidia Jetson Xavier agx 64gb for 400$. If you're clever, you can even use distributed training to combine the speed and memory of multiple together.

                                      Have you heard about OpenAI's new open source model? I can't run the 120b variant, but I could probably use the 20b variant. Of course OpenAI, being as obsessive about safety as they are, did a couple experiments to demonstrate their model was incapable of playing capture-the-flag, even if it was fine tuned. It turns out, their model simply isn't capable of doing the abstract planning required to do a task like that. It's 'thought' process is just too linear.

                                      I've recently been experimenting with topological deep learning. It's basically training neural networks to work with graphs. I've been trying to get a neural networks to model the multiple possibilities of getting a sandwich. You could use ingredients at home, you could go out and get ingredients, you could even buy one at a restaurant. Anyway, since most LLMs know what ingredients go into a sandwich, the hardest problem is actually deciding the method of getting a sandwich.

                                      TL;DR: I have a great deal of trust in the government, I enjoy saving money, I think it's great how safety-conscious OpenAI is, and I love eating sandwiches!!

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                                        A cat identifying as a dog is exactly the same amount of dog as all other dogs.

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                                          That's not a dog that's a salad

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