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    Am 54 year old American. If young folks knew what the natural world was like when I was a kid, they would fucking SCREAM. LOL, if I teleported some of you to 1978, you would be afraid to go outside for all the wild animals and insects. Lightning bugs were fucking sweet! Love bugs, meh, not so much. So it goes.

    Yes, pollution and littering has massively improved, not even a contest. OTOH, I've seen population better than double in my lifetime. That should freak you right the fuck out.

    Only looking at the vertebrates we're tracking, they're 73% fucking dead. Those stats say nothing of the insects and amphibians we've killed off in a short human lifetime. We've killed off the bottom of the food chain. I've seen the food chain collapse on my fucking front porch over the last 5 years. And our house is the only reason this hood has frogs and dragonflies!

    Fuck me, can't even fish around here for fear of driving the ecosystems into a further death spiral. I got loads of free gear from kayaking around and picking up fishing litter! Can't even nab a couple of fish for dinner, can't risk it. 🤬

    I don't know what to do. I have a fair sized yard and 2.5 acres of swamp in the boonies. No money, but I do what I can, as best as I know. But I'm crying for what my little kids never saw and will never know.

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    In school, about 20 years ago, we visited a village with a monestary. We slept there. There were a lot of fireflies. I moved to this village 2 years ago. I‘ve yet to see a single firefly.

    Heck there’s moments on days when I visit my parents and walk their dog where I can’t even hear a bird.

    I drive on the road for 16 years now. Compared to when I started, there aren’t that many insects colliding with me.

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      Tbh the boomer generation had a very big voting block and could and did rebel against the powers that were.

      They didn't get it all for free at all. Old proto boomers did put up a fight.

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        It’s not the failure of our parents, it’s the exploitation by the capitalist class, that did this.

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          It’s not the failure of our parents, it’s the exploitation by the capitalist class, that did this.

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          My parents left me better off than they were

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            In school, about 20 years ago, we visited a village with a monestary. We slept there. There were a lot of fireflies. I moved to this village 2 years ago. I‘ve yet to see a single firefly.

            Heck there’s moments on days when I visit my parents and walk their dog where I can’t even hear a bird.

            I drive on the road for 16 years now. Compared to when I started, there aren’t that many insects colliding with me.

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            When I was a kid in the 70s dad taught me to always clean the bugs off when stopping for gas. Now I can put in 700 miles across the American South and not clean the windshield once.

            That's what got me thinking about all this originally. Saw a picture on reddit years ago, couple of teen girls posing on their 70s hot rod, totally covered in bug guts.

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              It’s not the failure of our parents, it’s the exploitation by the capitalist class, that did this.

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              Yeah, it sucks to write this, but the capitalists were simply smarter than everyone else. They've gotten to such a level of control and power that it seems like achieving any kind of systemic change is either incredibly, incredibly hard or isn't feasible at all.

              So I don't think this situation is comparable to the time of past revolutions. There's simply too much asymmetry here in not just wealth, but also knowledge, technology, focus and so on. So many people are distracted by trivial things, and if they're fighting at all, than they're fighting their neighbors with a slightly different political view.

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                Tbh the boomer generation had a very big voting block and could and did rebel against the powers that were.

                They didn't get it all for free at all. Old proto boomers did put up a fight.

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                No they didn't, they went along with the mono-media - and still do. Due to the size of the bloc nothing will improve until boomers die out and by then it will be to late to change course.

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                  No they didn't, they went along with the mono-media - and still do. Due to the size of the bloc nothing will improve until boomers die out and by then it will be to late to change course.

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                  Idk the biggest protests of the last century happened around Vietnam and later nuclear proliferation. (Where I'm from). Add to that the American Civil rights protests.

                  Following generations haven't been able to organise protests that come close.

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                    Idk the biggest protests of the last century happened around Vietnam and later nuclear proliferation. (Where I'm from). Add to that the American Civil rights protests.

                    Following generations haven't been able to organise protests that come close.

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                    The Vietnam war was one of the first wars where unfiltered footage, pictures and reports were available to the public. So people was outraged because it was in the news. This taught the narrative sculptors that such a thing cannot happen again.

                    Corporate consolidation, editorial control thorough the foundations laid with Operation Mockingbird killed any chance of people being inclined to protest. Unless it's to their benefit - Have you noticed any protests that seem inorganic, more like they're designed and then approved by the media?

                    These days people are overwhelmed with information so they started narrowing down their news sources with the most obviously propagandising outlets being the first to go. Look at how the legacy media is struggling as their viewers base is slowly dying out.

                    So now people are free to get outraged about the truth again? No, we're building a new, singular (albeight highly curated) source of truth.

                    Where people used to say "it's true because I saw it in the news" we're now saying "it's true because AI said it".

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                      The Vietnam war was one of the first wars where unfiltered footage, pictures and reports were available to the public. So people was outraged because it was in the news. This taught the narrative sculptors that such a thing cannot happen again.

                      Corporate consolidation, editorial control thorough the foundations laid with Operation Mockingbird killed any chance of people being inclined to protest. Unless it's to their benefit - Have you noticed any protests that seem inorganic, more like they're designed and then approved by the media?

                      These days people are overwhelmed with information so they started narrowing down their news sources with the most obviously propagandising outlets being the first to go. Look at how the legacy media is struggling as their viewers base is slowly dying out.

                      So now people are free to get outraged about the truth again? No, we're building a new, singular (albeight highly curated) source of truth.

                      Where people used to say "it's true because I saw it in the news" we're now saying "it's true because AI said it".

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                      Ok so you give that the boomer generation protesting changed the way the incumbent proto boomers went about their business.

                      Which was my point.

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                        Ok so you give that the boomer generation protesting changed the way the incumbent proto boomers went about their business.

                        Which was my point.

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                        If your argument is that the way the boomers went about the issues only led to it being hid from them, sure - Their actions had effect.

                        Out of sight, out of mind. And that's why I see no possibility of change before the boomers die out, they are willfully ignorant and the demographic majority until then.

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                          My parents left me better off than they were

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                          Mine too, because my parents are fucking mental.

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                            Yeah, it sucks to write this, but the capitalists were simply smarter than everyone else. They've gotten to such a level of control and power that it seems like achieving any kind of systemic change is either incredibly, incredibly hard or isn't feasible at all.

                            So I don't think this situation is comparable to the time of past revolutions. There's simply too much asymmetry here in not just wealth, but also knowledge, technology, focus and so on. So many people are distracted by trivial things, and if they're fighting at all, than they're fighting their neighbors with a slightly different political view.

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                            Also we have (in the west) basically the foundation of Maslow's pyramid of needs covered, more or less. Revolutions are 3 meals away they say, and I don't see that happening.

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                              Also we have (in the west) basically the foundation of Maslow's pyramid of needs covered, more or less. Revolutions are 3 meals away they say, and I don't see that happening.

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                              Yeah, do I hate the way things are? Absolutely!

                              Will I do something about it, apart from talking and voting? No.

                              I know this is part of the problem, and yet I feel zero motivation to do more, at least right now, because, as you mentioned, the basic needs are covered, and also because there's still so much stuff to do (work, maintenance, ..) and enjoy (music, movies, games, ..)

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                                Yep thanks boomers.

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                                  Nah. Life was great for the Boomers! Same for Gen X! "Meh, looks good to me. Let's keep on. 'Murican way!"

                                  Sounded good to me. We only had 3 TV stations and 1 local paper to tell us the "truth". Ironically, the "truth" back then was far truer than social media and cable news feeds us today.

                                  So yeah, we got heads full of lead, literally. Some of us broke out of the "bubble", some didn't.

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                                  Can confirm - life not great for Gen X.

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