Lemmy be like
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Why would you lend and credence to the weakest appeal to the masses presented on the site?
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Ek is mal oor jou gebruikersnaam. Ek ook.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Dankie!! Jy is die eerste wat agter kom.
As jy nog nie weet van [email protected] weet nie gaan loer daar rond. Ek probeer `n bietjie van 'n gemeenskap daar bou.
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Remember when the internet was treated like AI when it first dropped? People up in arms about internets influence on young people/kids.
This all seems really familiar.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Nobody is going to libraries anymore, The internet is killing books and jobs 🤬
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HaVe YoU ConSiDeReD thE PoSSiBiLiTY that I'm not pro-AI and I understand the downsides, and can still point out that people flock like lemmings (*badum tss*) to any "AI bad" post regardless of whether it's actually good or not?
Why would a post need to be good? It just needs a good point. Like this post is good enough, even if I don't agree that we have enough facile ai = posts.
Depends on the community, but for most of them pointing out ways that ai is bad is probably relevant, welcome, and typical.
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I personally think of AI as a tool, what matters is how you use it. I like to think of it like a hammer. You could use a hammer to build a house, or you could smash someone's skull in with it. But no one's putting the hammer in jail.
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Apple = bad is also an instant karma farm
I prefer the fine vintage of a M$ = bad post, myself.
Or perhaps even a spicy little Ubuntu = bad post.
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An AI could be demonstrably 30 times more accurate than a human in diagnosing a cancer on a scan Lemmy would still shit on it because it's an AI :D.
On Reddit I knew that the subject of gun control was not allowed to be talked about. Now I embraced Lemmy and I can't talk no matter what about AI. It's just a taboo subject. Apparently some people want to reject the tech entirely and think it will somehow just magically stay out of their lives. A very naive dream.
So yeah Lemmy. Refuse the conversation, look away, I'm sure it will be fine.
Legitimately useful applications, like in the medical field, are actually brought up as examples of the "right kind" of use case for this technology.
Over and over again.
It's kind annoying, because both the haters of commercial LLM in All The Things and defenders of the same will bring up these exact same use cases as examples of good ai use.
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Remember when the internet was treated like AI when it first dropped? People up in arms about internets influence on young people/kids.
This all seems really familiar.
Honestly low-key technophobia has always been a major sentiment in otherwise tech-focused parts of the internet and it has always fascinated me.
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One could have said many of the same thigs about a lot of new technologies.
The Internet,
Nuclear,
Rockets,
Airplanes etc.Any new disruptive technology comes with drawbacks and can be used for evil.
But that doesn't mean it's all bad, or that it doesn't have its uses.
Give me one real world use that is worth the downside.
As dev I can already tell you it's not coding or around code. Project get spamed with low quality nonsensical bug repport, ai generated code rarely work and doesn't integrate well ( on top on pushing all the work on the reviewer wich is already the hardest part of coding ) and ai written documentation is ridled with errors and is not legible.
And even if ai was remotly good at something it still the equivalent of a microwave trying to replace the entire restaurant kitchen.
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One could have said many of the same thigs about a lot of new technologies.
The Internet,
Nuclear,
Rockets,
Airplanes etc.Any new disruptive technology comes with drawbacks and can be used for evil.
But that doesn't mean it's all bad, or that it doesn't have its uses.
Absolutely brain dead to compare the probability engine "AI" with no fundamental use beyond marketed value with a wide variety of truly useful innovations that did not involve marketing in their design.
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No but see we need machibes to do all the art for us, and averaging machibes to tell us wjat is and isnt true!
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He's made the World wake up to the fact that they can't trust the US, so that can be seen as good?
AI isn't that black and white, just like any big technology it can be used for good or bad.
Just like Airplanes
Good lord stop comparing LLMs to airplanes in your replies. This is why you think "AI bad" is an unserious statement.
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Remember when the internet was treated like AI when it first dropped? People up in arms about internets influence on young people/kids.
This all seems really familiar.
I mean they were right about the internet. The corporations turned most of it into a cluster of competing megamalls that make people anxious while selling them things.
Never mind that even just open a port 443 anywhere in the world will open you up to roving bands of OC scrapers, which feed the next evolution of corp power.
It's not like a bunch of basement nerds made LLMs and now corps are trying to muscle in (like with the internet). This new technology is theirs, from its R&D to now its aggressive rollout across all sectors of the Internet they control.
I don't have much hope for the commercial AI or LLM services that are available to most consumers. I think they're going to enshittify so bad that we're going to need a new word for it.
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Legitimately useful applications, like in the medical field, are actually brought up as examples of the "right kind" of use case for this technology.
Over and over again.
It's kind annoying, because both the haters of commercial LLM in All The Things and defenders of the same will bring up these exact same use cases as examples of good ai use.
May I ask for a link ?
Never saw that in the communities I consult. Never.
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Does this count? https://sopuli.xyz/post/1138547
ah, mid 2023, the honeymoon times
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May I ask for a link ?
Never saw that in the communities I consult. Never.
Or at least not above 5 downvotes.I'll keep an eye out but I don't have votes visible, so can only really tell sentiment from comments.
Aside, but I highly recommend hiding vote counts. They're even more pointless here than they were on redit. They're meaningless noise on the frontend.
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Good lord stop comparing LLMs to airplanes in your replies. This is why you think "AI bad" is an unserious statement.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I used that comparison a total of two times (and might use it more), how about refute my argument instead of getting mad at me for using a good comparison twice.
Airplanes emit SHITLOADS of carbon into the atmosphere, they have directly caused the death of tens of thousands of people. Airplanes are heavily used in war and to spy on people. Airplanes are literally used to spray pesticides and other chemicals into the air etc.
They can mostly just be used by the rich etc.Just like with AI, there are many reasons airplanes are bad, that doesn't mean we should get rid of them.
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Yeah. I hate the naming of it too. It's not AI in the sense how science fiction saw it. History repeats itself in the name of marketing. I'm still very annoyed with these marketers destroying the term "hover board".
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Give me one real world use that is worth the downside.
As dev I can already tell you it's not coding or around code. Project get spamed with low quality nonsensical bug repport, ai generated code rarely work and doesn't integrate well ( on top on pushing all the work on the reviewer wich is already the hardest part of coding ) and ai written documentation is ridled with errors and is not legible.
And even if ai was remotly good at something it still the equivalent of a microwave trying to replace the entire restaurant kitchen.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I can run a small LLM locally which I can talk to using voice to turn certain lights on and off, set reminders for me, play music etc.
There are MANY examples of LLM's being useful, it has its drawbacks just like any big technology, but saying it has no uses that aren't worth it, is ridiculous.
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Yes. AI can be used for spam, job cuts, and creepy surveillance, no argument there, but pretending it’s nothing more than a corporate scam machine is just lazy cynicism. This same “automatic BS” is helping discover life-saving drugs, diagnosing cancers earlier than some doctors, giving deaf people real-time conversations through instant transcription, translating entire languages on the fly, mapping wildfire and flood zones so first responders know exactly where to go, accelerating scientific breakthroughs from climate modeling to space exploration, and cutting out the kind of tedious grunt work that wastes millions of human hours a day. The problem isn’t that AI exists, it’s that a lot of powerful people use it selfishly and irresponsibly. Blaming the tech instead of demanding better governance is like blaming the printing press for bad propaganda.
This same “automatic BS” is helping discover life-saving drugs, diagnosing cancers earlier than some doctors
Not the same kind of AI. At all. Generative AI vendors love this motte-and-bailey.
