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A big part of learning Linux is screwing up computers and starting over.

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    I get mine set up how I want then create an HD image that I run in a VM for fucking with.

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      My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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      .... So what should I try Linux again?

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        My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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        Maybe 1 or 2 back when things were less stable, but any time I have used Linux in the past 7 years or so, and particularly since I started using Debian as my primary OS, I haven't had any problems outside of trying to get some windows applications to emulate correctly, and one time when I echo'd into sources.list with > instead of >>.

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          It's even better if your only internet connection is that computer you broke.

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          Great incentive to learn even faster

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            .... So what should I try Linux again?

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            You mean why? Because you're using your bare machine, you can use it as you wish. No nanny software limiting the fun or productivity

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              Great incentive to learn even faster

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              And enforces the value of installing documentation and source packages 😅

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                You mean why? Because you're using your bare machine, you can use it as you wish. No nanny software limiting the fun or productivity

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                Yeah but breaking like six computers to do it, or one computer six times, seems like a pretty steep price for that when I basically just use my computer for gaming browsing and the occasional audio/video edit.

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                  Yeah but breaking like six computers to do it, or one computer six times, seems like a pretty steep price for that when I basically just use my computer for gaming browsing and the occasional audio/video edit.

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                  Nah, if you're installing something user friendly (ie Linux Mint just for an example) it'll work 1st time, guaranteed - or your money back.

                  But... you'll only really learn once you've fubar'd something... just like falling off riding a bike

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                    It's even better if your only internet connection is that computer you broke.

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                    Ah yes, reminds me of messing with my 1st pfSense firewall... I learned how good their recovery process was that evening

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                      "Starting over" is how we learnt Windows in the 90's too

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                      I still remember playing around in autoexec.bat, config.sys and command.com but don't remember what the hell i was doing there and probably shouldn't have touched those files. I guess i learned something as i haven't bricked anything this side of the milennia.

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                        Bricking hardware is a form of enrichment for me.

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                        Ah, have you found the land of IoT? Bricks everywhere, you'd love it.

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                          Ah yes, reminds me of messing with my 1st pfSense firewall... I learned how good their recovery process was that evening

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                          Just bricked my Proxmox install an hour ago and I have the pleasure to learn their recovery process sucks. (At least for my case)

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                            My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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                            Pretty much everytime I try to do fancy stuff with the bootloader I get pretty close to nuking systems.
                            Worst was my 1st UEFI system where I was trying to get rEFInd to show multiple OS to boot from... eventually gave up and went back to the warm embrace of GRUB

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                              Just bricked my Proxmox install an hour ago and I have the pleasure to learn their recovery process sucks. (At least for my case)

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                              Ah, yeah, you've just reminded me, I must move my stuff off proxmox when I get a chance.

                              I tried that proxmox backup thing when I first set it up, good god what a complex mess... backup & recovery needs to be as simple and as smooth as possible.

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                                Ah, have you found the land of IoT? Bricks everywhere, you'd love it.

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                                You're suggesting I should follow the yellow brick road to find the Wizard of -Oz- iOT

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                                  You're suggesting I should follow the yellow brick road to find the Wizard of -Oz- iOT

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                                  Why not... or try another brick in the wall

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                                    Pretty much everytime I try to do fancy stuff with the bootloader I get pretty close to nuking systems.
                                    Worst was my 1st UEFI system where I was trying to get rEFInd to show multiple OS to boot from... eventually gave up and went back to the warm embrace of GRUB

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                                    If you take the plunge and switch to systemd-boot it's worth it. It's the only boot manager I've tried in the last decade that feels like an upgrade from GRUB.

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                                      My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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                                      I would actually be amazed if I ever bricked a PC fucking around with installing things to it. At the very worst, I might have to move a jumper pin to flash the CMOS and start fresh like I never even touched the thing.

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                                        Yeah but breaking like six computers to do it, or one computer six times, seems like a pretty steep price for that when I basically just use my computer for gaming browsing and the occasional audio/video edit.

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                                        OP said breaking the kernel, not the machine. The computers would be fine, its pretty damn difficult to brick a computer using software, at least by accident.

                                        Normal users will not break their kernel, op is likely doing some advanced tinkering. I have been using Linux for years and am definitely an advanced user and Ive broken my kernel zero times.

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                                          Never the kernel but just about every time I touch /etc/fstab I fuck something up. I've done that a lot....

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                                          Oh, I typed that line wrong to mount the drive and because the non-os drive isn't detected you're only going to boot to emergency mode?

                                          Cool cool cool.

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