F1's clampdown on A/B teams revealed
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"So I think the sport, as we're now in the budget cap era, has moved on to where we're trying to have 10 independent teams from a sporting, from a political, from a technical point of view.
"I think they [Red Bull] are very much playing by the rules. I have an issue with the rules - and believe the FIA needs to address this."
I mean, I agree with Zak. It's a weird situation since I guess you can't legally force Red Bull to sell Racing Bulls, but them having two teams on the grid is really not a great look for the sport regardless of how you slice it, unless you think they deserve it for saving the Faenza operations.
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Although the Red Bull situation is obvious because it is openly on the table, there are also teams linked via other ways. Parts manufacturers, engine manufacturers, sponsors, etc can be included. But also you can think of Toto Wolff as co-owner of Mercedes AMG and manager of Esteban Ocon. And then, what if a driver halfway through the season signs for a different team for the next season?
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As a fairly new fan of F1, the points posted here never made sense to me as making a fair playing field.
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Brown said: "No other sport to my knowledge allows co-ownership of two teams that compete against each other.
As the owner of the United Autosports sportscar team, he obviously knows that this isn't true.
For decades Audi and Porsche compete in various motorsports against each other. In IMSA Porsche and Lamborghini compete against each other with no one helping the other.
In Formula E (where this season McLaren also competes in, so he also knows this) there are two cases of works teams with "customer" teams that have a different car brand as title sponsor. For Stellantis "DS Penske" is the works team and "Maserati MSG" is the customer. Porsche has its own team and there is customer team Cupra Kiro which also relies on title sponsor Cupra, a sister VW brand. This season and in the past, Porsche and its customers have very openly worked with each other near the end of the seasons when championships battles were close.
Red Bull and Toro Rosso are nowhere near the Formula E situation. The closest thing in somewhat recent past was that Ricciardo fastest lap once.
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Although the Red Bull situation is obvious because it is openly on the table, there are also teams linked via other ways. Parts manufacturers, engine manufacturers, sponsors, etc can be included. But also you can think of Toto Wolff as co-owner of Mercedes AMG and manager of Esteban Ocon. And then, what if a driver halfway through the season signs for a different team for the next season?
Alpine will be a full Mercedes B team next season after Toto was pissed at Williams for taking in Red Bull driver Albon (remember that he had the bulls on the helmet in his first season and later Monsoon Valley, another Yoovidhya business) and then when Williams took Colapinto instead of a Mercedes reserve.
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"So I think the sport, as we're now in the budget cap era, has moved on to where we're trying to have 10 independent teams from a sporting, from a political, from a technical point of view.
"I think they [Red Bull] are very much playing by the rules. I have an issue with the rules - and believe the FIA needs to address this."
I mean, I agree with Zak. It's a weird situation since I guess you can't legally force Red Bull to sell Racing Bulls, but them having two teams on the grid is really not a great look for the sport regardless of how you slice it, unless you think they deserve it for saving the Faenza operations.
They saved them 20 years ago. I don't think it's right for them to coast on that goodwill forever, especially not when they didn't exactly buy the team out of altruism.
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They saved them 20 years ago. I don't think it's right for them to coast on that goodwill forever, especially not when they didn't exactly buy the team out of altruism.
I agree, but it's what usually gets dredged up when this topic resurfaces every now and then.
