What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality
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Pretty much every korean MMORPG released from 2006-2014, as they were desperately trying to be "World of Warcraft, but better". Perfect World, Aion, ArcheAge, 4story, Granado Espada, etc etc etc, even when you have the better experience of playing on a private server with significantly less P2W (as in, nearly everyone gets most of the shop for free)
To me, personally, ArcheAge would be the best fit for "dead medium quality". It boasts naval combat, which is meh; player run trade caravans, which probably only worked as intended in the first 2 months after launch; limits on gathering and crafting, which just forces free players to buy premium; graphics are the generic korean mmo variety, pretty but almost impossible to distinguish between games; music, enemies, dungeons and most gear exist
Ragnarok Online was the last incredible MMO.
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In my opinion ( haven't played or really seen the DLCs, so I'm just talking about base game ), Pokemon Scarlet and Violet.
Definitely had ups and downs when I did my only playthrough. Absolutely middle of the road compared to the official games ( completed gen 3, part way through gens 4-7 ) I have played and still even middle of the road compared to some of the fan games I've played over the years.
Pokemon ScarVio were horrrrible. Unplayable for me.
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I think it was the way that exploration felt like a grind that made it so “meh”. A whole universe to explore, and you’re either going to come to a barren rock planet, or find the same enemy base/outpost 5 times in a row.
For a game where space exploration was one of the main selling points, it felt remarkably unlike exploring at times.
The first space exploration game without space or exploration
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Nier Automata
How dare you feel this way, you scruffy-looking Nerf-herder!
I am unhappy with your comment! But I respect it, so I hope you have a great day ahead.
I had to stop when the villians were monologuing right in the middle of a fight scene, in the most cliched way possible. And this was after some mid gameplay, with a clearly telegraphed rugpull plot point that seemed like it was going to be the centerpiece of the whole story.
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Ragnarok Online was the last incredible MMO.
Eh, debatable. I've played it for roughly 2 years (2004-6) on private servers and even then I knew it wasn't "the best" or "incredible" by any means, but it was light years ahead of Tibia (which was my first taste of MMORPGs, back when the starter island was a mess with too many players and not enough rats in the sewers for people to kill and level up) in every regard. Even with higher rates and an incredible teenage patience for braindead repetition, the grind got old really damn fast, not to mention that the game penalized fucking around (no stat resets, only on the 99 rebirth) and fucking up (1% xp penalty on death hit harder and harder the higher your level).
Played for a long time on EuphRO server (3x/3x/2x), my highest level character was 75 or something close to that. I think I gave up playing altogether around the time I got a super novice to level 50 on a different, higher rate server
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The incredible adventures of Van Helsing. Decent rpg with loot but was fairly imbalanced among character classes. The real winner was the mini tower defense games in it and the spinoff tower defense game, imo.
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The outer worlds . it was just meh in my opinion. Not to be confused with the outer wilds game that I've yet to play
Well, I can sort of be impressed with what outer wilds did. I didn't actually find it all that much fun to play, whereas I completed the outer worlds.
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7/10 to me is a good game. I hate how people rate games. I’ve always hated it. A 6/10 game is enjoyable. A 5/10 game is absolutely mid. A 4/10 game is okay. 3/10 has huge flaws but is worth playing if you’re into that.
Subnautica is an 8/10 game for me. I thought it was amazing. I loved it. Below Zero was a 6/10 game. I thought it was good. I enjoyed it, and I would not call it “absolute mid.”
In a world where games are scored across a full spectrum 0-or-1 to 10, then yes - anything 4-6 would be considered middle of the road.
However, due to a number of factors - that’s unfortunately not the reality we find ourselves in.
Firstly, “mid” is hard to define as it can mean anything from ‘mediocre’ to ‘fine, but forgettable’.
Secondly, ratings/scores tend to skew upward as people tend to reserve 1s for outright scams, broken games and review bombs. With 2 & 3 often used for ‘asset flips’ and similar non-games - so we end up grading on a curve from 4-10.
This also works well for mainstream outlets as it keeps advertisers happy, due to arbitrarily inflated scores.
Lastly, in a world of cumulative media (new releases don’t cause older ones to stop existing) - even ostensibly good games will fall by the wayside as players have access to 10/10 titles from previous years.
So all things considered, a 7/10 is well and truly “mid” in this topsy-turvey IGN-eque world
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Eh, debatable. I've played it for roughly 2 years (2004-6) on private servers and even then I knew it wasn't "the best" or "incredible" by any means, but it was light years ahead of Tibia (which was my first taste of MMORPGs, back when the starter island was a mess with too many players and not enough rats in the sewers for people to kill and level up) in every regard. Even with higher rates and an incredible teenage patience for braindead repetition, the grind got old really damn fast, not to mention that the game penalized fucking around (no stat resets, only on the 99 rebirth) and fucking up (1% xp penalty on death hit harder and harder the higher your level).
Played for a long time on EuphRO server (3x/3x/2x), my highest level character was 75 or something close to that. I think I gave up playing altogether around the time I got a super novice to level 50 on a different, higher rate server
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I am biased because RO changed my life. I played on a 2x/2x server with like 3k people and it was incredible. I met so many awesome people to braindead farm with and WoE was so fun, I didn’t have a lot of close friends in real life but I had some incredible people in RO. Also as a young bi furry bitch Moonie gave me very confusing feelings. I might not be here today if not for RO, so I have some opinions on RO hahaha
Quick edit: I played from when it came out here until when it became F2P and I disagreed with that choice. I hate MTX shit.
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Oh my GAWD 7/10 is NOT mid. I just ranted on another comment about this. 7/10 is a GREAT score. Everyone: please make 5/10 your mid-game point I am so tired of this aaaaaaa
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I was using the GAMESPOT weighted numbering scale:
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TrafficReliesOnThemHahaha that’s totally fair. I’m just peeved that people don’t rate games as a 5/5 = okay game rating. When I see a 7/10 as mediocre, I get a solid flare up of my autism
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Sounds like the Onslaught mode of UT2004 and 3, though more strategic, especially with the classes
It definitely had a lot in common with Onslaught mode. There was some overlap with the types of vehicles, too.
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I was going to say outer worlds as well (outer WILDS is a fantastic game IMO) the game was entirely competent, just unimpressive in every way. Except Pavarti, she is a precocious sugar dumpling and must be protected at all costs.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Actual conversation had with my wife, who was watching me play near the end:
"That chick is cute. I bet her romance is adorable!"
"She's aromantic and asexual, you can't romance her."
"I bet her quest line is fun"
"Nope. It's a really boring fetch quest where you set her up on a date with some bland woman old enough to be her mother. She is also very obviously sexually and romantically attracted to this woman."
"...huh."
I love Parvati but Drinking Sapphire Wine is a terrible quest.
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Probably everytbing put out by Nintendo in a long time. Yes, even that one. That one, too.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Don't censor yourself, who are you afraid of??
Mario Kart World
Just say it
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The Technomancer
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Outer Wilds is absolutely superb if/when you get it try to get the DLC too its a good value. Steam summer sale coming up soon if you’re in the states
Loll, people will never stop getting these confused
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Anything from Ubisoft
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Was gonna say it. This perfectly describes the last few Assassins Creed titles. Not bad enough to put them away, but also not good enough to leave any kind of lasting impact.
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Probably everytbing put out by Nintendo in a long time. Yes, even that one. That one, too.
Excuse you, but Breath of the Wild was amazing.
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Starfield. It's the definition of a "mixed" rating on Steam. It's not bad, but it's not good either. You play it for an hour and your reward is that an hour has passed.
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Any assassin's creed from the last 10 years, probs gonna get hate for that but they are just so average to me.
I got the viking one for free. Didn't make it much farther than the initial area, which is hours long.
I'd say they are worse than mediocre.
