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    so like 5 min an hour just logging shit they could spend with the parent when they pick them up

    Talking with parents takes far, far, far longer than logging something on your phone or a tablet. How is this idea not just a significantly worse time-sink?

    That's not even getting into the fact that things get forgotten throughout the day - you're absolutely not getting a full report while they're panicking and dealing with 20 other parents while also keeping the kids still there safe.

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    If they are panicking while the child is being picked up and dropped off that kind of environment might not be for them. Also the idea that you think that you interacting with the care giver/parent is a time sink is the reason why I think its dystopian, I would want them to be in full care giver mode at all times and not have to switch to logging corp slave for the few min an hour. I am sure that dumb shit is taxing on them and its just a thing for parents that will require it (god forbid those same parents actually spend any time with those people or look for other things in their childs environment that could help that need this kind of logging. ).

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      SOOO if the educator was, I dont know, forced to talk to them at pick up over the things of the day they could be more looped in to what the parents want and maybe better understand the groups role and abilities for their child. No you are right, this is better.

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      Lots of parents don't care.

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        Additional notes: I was assassinating another child

        Is this daycare or militia camp?

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          And over how many children? So 30 kids 5 seconds each (lets hope they just have to click a button and not add fucking notes to each one) so like 5 min an hour just logging shit they could spend with the parent when they pick them up. God forbid its a real winner of a day and every other child is just walking into walls and tripping all over the place. I am sure they need this dumb shit added to their workload.

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          Most daycares don't have that sort of volume of children for it to be an issue, I'd imagine. 30 kids isn't a daycare, that's like 3 kindergarten classrooms.

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            And just to be clear, you believe that this would take less time away from the other children?

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            with that person, no, but you can get all the info out to the parent and have an actual conversation with the people that care for your child. Like I said mgmt would be able to grab those children that need watching with those care givers talking to parents. The idea you think this is the better option is my issue. Its just parents who wanna look for others to blame yet they wouldnt spend 5 min a day to talk to the person they leave the child with.

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              Lots of parents don't care.

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              thats so fucked.

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                Most daycares don't have that sort of volume of children for it to be an issue, I'd imagine. 30 kids isn't a daycare, that's like 3 kindergarten classrooms.

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                I just asked a few of my friends with kids in daycare. One said (valley cali) said the daycare had like 300 - 500 kids there. Then another (Tenn, outside of Nash) She said there was 70 there when she first started with them and its more now a year later. I dont think kindergardens have like 10 in them either. to be fair those daycares do have a lot of care givers but 10:1 seem like what they are seeing.

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                  If they are panicking while the child is being picked up and dropped off that kind of environment might not be for them. Also the idea that you think that you interacting with the care giver/parent is a time sink is the reason why I think its dystopian, I would want them to be in full care giver mode at all times and not have to switch to logging corp slave for the few min an hour. I am sure that dumb shit is taxing on them and its just a thing for parents that will require it (god forbid those same parents actually spend any time with those people or look for other things in their childs environment that could help that need this kind of logging. ).

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                  is the reason why I think its dystopian

                  Yeah, I hate to break this to you, but we are living through a dystopia. Nobody can afford childcare and all childcare is understaffed

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                    Yeah, let’s have concussed children take a nap

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                      Not even close to right, fed says it can be 10:1 no more then 16:1 sooo that is still minutes out of each hour. And that is if everything is running smooth and children are anything but smooth. And I am speaking up because again I think its dystopian, I would rather the person in charge of my child TALK TO ME, and we can learn what to expect and want from the relationship then them sitting on phones or tablets logging every last thing my child did.
                      And I must point out that your math is bad, 7x5 isnt 30. If you need precision in your childcare you should strive for it in yourself.

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                      What federal limit are you referencing? Federally funded Early Head Start classes serving students under 36 months old must have two teachers with no more than 8 children (4:1 ratio). CFR 1302.21(b)(2). Kids in diapers will probably be under 36 months.

                      Many states have their own requirements.

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                        Is this some kind of secret Jan variant?

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                          with that person, no, but you can get all the info out to the parent and have an actual conversation with the people that care for your child. Like I said mgmt would be able to grab those children that need watching with those care givers talking to parents. The idea you think this is the better option is my issue. Its just parents who wanna look for others to blame yet they wouldnt spend 5 min a day to talk to the person they leave the child with.

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                          Management can not just slot in to replace an educator.

                          Especially not when you have 6 rooms of adults picking their kids up after finishing work at 5.

                          The simple matter of fact is there is not enough time to talk to ~20 families each evening and give a summary of their kids day.

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                            Yeah, let’s have concussed children take a nap

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                            Yes.

                            The current advice I’m given in Australia these days is that it’s better for children to sleep and be monitored than kept up and to become exhausted.

                            If we had genuine belief that a child had a concussion and not just hit themselves on a fall (happens daily), we would ask for the child to be collected by parents.

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                              Hey FYI your black bars are see through

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                                thats so fucked.

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                                Some parents don't have time. You knock off work, pick the kids up, and get home and prepare dinner so they can get to bed at a decent time. If you have older kids who need to get to other places, then there's another constrain. If you need to get to the shops or bank or something you have to cut some tasks out to meet your priorities.

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                                  Some parents don't have time. You knock off work, pick the kids up, and get home and prepare dinner so they can get to bed at a decent time. If you have older kids who need to get to other places, then there's another constrain. If you need to get to the shops or bank or something you have to cut some tasks out to meet your priorities.

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                                  Thats the actually fucked part

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                                    Hey FYI your black bars are see through

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                                    Not my OC. OOP was told about this and left the post up anyway 🙂

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                                      Not my OC. OOP was told about this and left the post up anyway 🙂

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                                      I wonder if Miss Emely appreciated that. Hell, did anybody ask Noam before blasting his dirty laundry all over the internet?

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                                        Not even close to right, fed says it can be 10:1 no more then 16:1 sooo that is still minutes out of each hour. And that is if everything is running smooth and children are anything but smooth. And I am speaking up because again I think its dystopian, I would rather the person in charge of my child TALK TO ME, and we can learn what to expect and want from the relationship then them sitting on phones or tablets logging every last thing my child did.
                                        And I must point out that your math is bad, 7x5 isnt 30. If you need precision in your childcare you should strive for it in yourself.

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                                        So you want the caretaker to spend 5-10 minutes chatting to you instead of spending a few seconds logging?

                                        Who’s watching the other kids while the caretaker has all their attention on you during pickup?

                                        Your suggestion takes more time and leaves less time to spend are taking other kids.

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                                          you would think they would have all these other workers that can cover while you talk to the parent. Also I would assume that mgmt is out and about more to help at drop off and pickup.

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                                          So the same doesn’t apply for doing logging, which takes less time?

                                          Also, stuff gets forgotten, with a log done right away, stuff isn’t forgotten. You think as you say one person can remember the issues of 30 different kids?

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