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In case you missed it, LXQt and Xfce both support Wayland now

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    sway, wayfire, river, hyprland and labwc are standalone wayland compositors. why we need desktop environments inside them!

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    A compositor is a component of a DE, not a DE on its own... if it does not provide on its own a toolbar, launcher and maybe a terminal emulator (or at least call some generic wrapper to hook into one, something like xdg-terminal-exec) I wouldn't consider it a DE.

    I mean.. openbox is used in X11 desktop environments like LXDE.. I don't see why labwc should be treated like it cannot be a component of one.

    And river has almost as a mission statement to become more of a framework than a DE on its own.. they even have the goal in the long term to remove things from it to make it more modular.. it's definitely not something intended to work standalone.

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      Both don't ship with their own Wayland compositor, but there are enough to choose from.

      Xfce comes with a wayland session using labwc out of the box, but was also tested with Wayfire. The devs state you shouldn't hold your breath waiting for the native window manager xfwm to be ported into a Wayland compositor, since they don't know if/when it will be done. Almost all other Xfce components support Wayland now, while retaining X11 compatibility.

      LXQt's newest stable release has full Wayland support, with 7 different Wayland compositors to choose from within a GUI settings menu: Labwc, KWin, Wayfire, Hyprland, Sway, River and Niri

      https://xfce.org/about/news/?post=1734220800
      https://lxqt-project.org/release/2024/11/05/release-lxqt-2-1-0/

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      XFCE only mostly though. Stuff like tray and xfwm (the window manager) not yet.

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        You don't need a desktop environment, but it takes away a lot of config work if you want a full featured desktop.

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        Exactly, I used hyprland for a while but configuration is too time-consuming if you want a decent status bar, launcher, keybinds... So I'm excited to try it with LXqt, thanks for the heads-up!

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          KDE Neon and kubuntu have Wayland as default. Just was trying them because I wanted Plasma 6. Took a bit of tweaking for a few things but I have all the things I need running fine with Wayland.

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          • admetus@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

            Fedora, so most Gnome based distros. KDE as commented beside me. Arch-based EndeavourOS.

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              Both don't ship with their own Wayland compositor, but there are enough to choose from.

              Xfce comes with a wayland session using labwc out of the box, but was also tested with Wayfire. The devs state you shouldn't hold your breath waiting for the native window manager xfwm to be ported into a Wayland compositor, since they don't know if/when it will be done. Almost all other Xfce components support Wayland now, while retaining X11 compatibility.

              LXQt's newest stable release has full Wayland support, with 7 different Wayland compositors to choose from within a GUI settings menu: Labwc, KWin, Wayfire, Hyprland, Sway, River and Niri

              https://xfce.org/about/news/?post=1734220800
              https://lxqt-project.org/release/2024/11/05/release-lxqt-2-1-0/

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              why would they need inferior scientists?

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                Both don't ship with their own Wayland compositor, but there are enough to choose from.

                Xfce comes with a wayland session using labwc out of the box, but was also tested with Wayfire. The devs state you shouldn't hold your breath waiting for the native window manager xfwm to be ported into a Wayland compositor, since they don't know if/when it will be done. Almost all other Xfce components support Wayland now, while retaining X11 compatibility.

                LXQt's newest stable release has full Wayland support, with 7 different Wayland compositors to choose from within a GUI settings menu: Labwc, KWin, Wayfire, Hyprland, Sway, River and Niri

                https://xfce.org/about/news/?post=1734220800
                https://lxqt-project.org/release/2024/11/05/release-lxqt-2-1-0/

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                #35

                Support might be a strong word.

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                • a_norny_mousse@feddit.orgA [email protected]

                  If you can't edit XML use nice GUI lxhotkey or obkey instead

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                  thanks, will take a look

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                  • S [email protected]

                    Both don't ship with their own Wayland compositor, but there are enough to choose from.

                    Xfce comes with a wayland session using labwc out of the box, but was also tested with Wayfire. The devs state you shouldn't hold your breath waiting for the native window manager xfwm to be ported into a Wayland compositor, since they don't know if/when it will be done. Almost all other Xfce components support Wayland now, while retaining X11 compatibility.

                    LXQt's newest stable release has full Wayland support, with 7 different Wayland compositors to choose from within a GUI settings menu: Labwc, KWin, Wayfire, Hyprland, Sway, River and Niri

                    https://xfce.org/about/news/?post=1734220800
                    https://lxqt-project.org/release/2024/11/05/release-lxqt-2-1-0/

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                    I'm so excited for Wayland xfce but my laptop is really old and probably cant run Wayland as well as x11.

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                    • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                      I'm so excited for Wayland xfce but my laptop is really old and probably cant run Wayland as well as x11.

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                      I don't think a Wayland compositor needs any more resources than a window manager plus X server.

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                        I don't think a Wayland compositor needs any more resources than a window manager plus X server.

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                        Why wouldn't it? Wayland does a lot more. I haven't done any testing but on vibes x11 feels more responsive on my old system

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