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Why Lemmy is so superior to Reddit: No Karma, Just Value Content

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  • ? Guest

    This may not be an inherently bad thing given that low karma accounts tend to be trolls.

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    I'd argue that low karma accounts tend to be new people or lurkers.

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      I'd argue that low karma accounts tend to be new people or lurkers.

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      By low karma I mean -100 types.

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        Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

        EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

        Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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        Reddit become more unusable because of the ads, bots, redditors who promote their onlyfans / business.

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        • ? Guest

          This may not be an inherently bad thing given that low karma accounts tend to be trolls.

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          I always like forum setups where you had limited posting privileges until you'd had a couple of posts. Usually, they'd have an introduction category where you could post, and then comment on some other users' posts, to get your post or reputation count high enough to unlock the rest of the board.

          Most Lemmy sites are small enough to have a local introduction community or other 'free' communities for newbies to dip their toes and acclimate. They'd be good places to centralize posts on how all of this works, too.

          Wouldn't scale to large servers, though.

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            Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

            EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

            Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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            No, there's karma. I've had more than a couple guys point out mine is negative.

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            • oce@jlai.luO [email protected]

              Visible post and comment scores are still going to produce some of this behavior. You may not have a total karma but people will still get dopamine from seeing their posts getting upvotes and be reinforced in doing the same again. So the same mechanisms of social pressure and uniformisation are at play. The worst being when people delete their minority opinion comments because of the downvote pressure.

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              You can turn vote counts off if you want to.

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                Maybe. They might also mean you're an idiot.

                Slashdot used to have a multidimensional voting system that would allow you to up or down vote something based on whether it was funny/insightful/correct, etc (can't remember the dimension). I wish we had something like that. Sometimes it would be useful to mark a comment as "funny, but also wrong"

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                I turn my phone sideways and then my upvote is in a different dimension.

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                  Maybe. They might also mean you're an idiot.

                  Slashdot used to have a multidimensional voting system that would allow you to up or down vote something based on whether it was funny/insightful/correct, etc (can't remember the dimension). I wish we had something like that. Sometimes it would be useful to mark a comment as "funny, but also wrong"

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                  No, it was only up or down, but you could also choose to add a descriptor, funny, insightful, informative, flamebait, troll, and a few others: https://slashdot.org/faq#meta3

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                    Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                    EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                    Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                    Really? I have like 15 meme communities blocked, and there are comparably very few niche communities.

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                      Unfortunately, on reddit - when subreddits restrict new posters or low karma commenters, they're just trying to mitigate the impact of trolls and bots and people making new accounts. It's not about being elitist.

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                      The karma restrictions seems at first a good idea but can be bypassed very easily. The bots steal older popular posts or pictures and repost them.

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                        No, there's karma. I've had more than a couple guys point out mine is negative.

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                        I think some apps will request all of your comment history and manually calculate karma but it’s not tracked by lemmy

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                          The karma restrictions seems at first a good idea but can be bypassed very easily. The bots steal older popular posts or pictures and repost them.

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                          Sure, but it offers at least some protection.

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                            Really? I have like 15 meme communities blocked, and there are comparably very few niche communities.

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                            Yeah, lemmy suffers a lot of from this. Too many posts that try to just make the front page, too many popular communities that dominate c/all. I've even had a friend quit over this.

                            I genuinely miss communities about games, linguistics and niche hobbies - they just aren't as popular as news/politics/general memes and that. I do try to post them as much as i can, but since they're niche there's only so much content you can find.

                            I'd love for the frontpage to have some [optional, ofc] changes that encourage more of this type of content.

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                              Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                              EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                              Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                              I mean there are upvotes and downvotes so I don't know what you mean. But there isn't a real incentive to have lots of upvotes on here. I'm not even sure why karma farming even is a thing on reddit. Maybe cause you can sell the account to whatever guy wants to buy it?

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                                Downvoted your comment. Because announcing downvotes is very reddit.

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                                I'm downvoting myself, cause idk man

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                                  I think there might still be one or two apps that show a total.

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                                  Doesn't show your total on the Eternity app

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                                    I mean there are upvotes and downvotes so I don't know what you mean. But there isn't a real incentive to have lots of upvotes on here. I'm not even sure why karma farming even is a thing on reddit. Maybe cause you can sell the account to whatever guy wants to buy it?

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                                    I was offered $300 for my Reddit account once lmao

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                                      The fact that it's not designed to notify you every time you get 5 upvotes changes the game. Also low Karma accounts can post in Lemmy as opposed to Reddit.

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                                      notify you every time you get 5 upvotes

                                      wat

                                      Is that a new thing? I'm pretty sure it didn't do that before I left.

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                                        Short comments scream human to me more than long comments. Like that guy who never posts any comments shorter than three paragraphs all perfectly formatted and punctuated.

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                                        Like that guy who never posts any comments shorter than three paragraphs all perfectly formatted and punctuated.

                                        'Sup.

                                        Yes, I realize this particular comment is somewhat self defeating and probably not a great example. But that's not the point.

                                        The point is it's apparently become my mission in life to annoy all the people on the internet who just check out any time they see a string of text that's longer than 160 characters. I've been doing this since the early '90's and you punks will never stop me.

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                                          I'm downvoting myself, cause idk man

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                                          Oh no you don't. I'm upvoting you, instead.

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