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Why Lemmy is so superior to Reddit: No Karma, Just Value Content

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  • ? Guest

    Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

    EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

    Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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    I mean there are upvotes and downvotes so I don't know what you mean. But there isn't a real incentive to have lots of upvotes on here. I'm not even sure why karma farming even is a thing on reddit. Maybe cause you can sell the account to whatever guy wants to buy it?

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    • sibshops@lemm.eeS [email protected]

      Downvoted your comment. Because announcing downvotes is very reddit.

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      I'm downvoting myself, cause idk man

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      • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

        I think there might still be one or two apps that show a total.

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        Doesn't show your total on the Eternity app

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          I mean there are upvotes and downvotes so I don't know what you mean. But there isn't a real incentive to have lots of upvotes on here. I'm not even sure why karma farming even is a thing on reddit. Maybe cause you can sell the account to whatever guy wants to buy it?

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          I was offered $300 for my Reddit account once lmao

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          • ? Guest

            The fact that it's not designed to notify you every time you get 5 upvotes changes the game. Also low Karma accounts can post in Lemmy as opposed to Reddit.

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            notify you every time you get 5 upvotes

            wat

            Is that a new thing? I'm pretty sure it didn't do that before I left.

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              Short comments scream human to me more than long comments. Like that guy who never posts any comments shorter than three paragraphs all perfectly formatted and punctuated.

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              Like that guy who never posts any comments shorter than three paragraphs all perfectly formatted and punctuated.

              'Sup.

              Yes, I realize this particular comment is somewhat self defeating and probably not a great example. But that's not the point.

              The point is it's apparently become my mission in life to annoy all the people on the internet who just check out any time they see a string of text that's longer than 160 characters. I've been doing this since the early '90's and you punks will never stop me.

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                I'm downvoting myself, cause idk man

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                Oh no you don't. I'm upvoting you, instead.

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                • rglullis@communick.newsR [email protected]
                  1. My reddit account (with the same username) is 19 years old. This one was created in June of 2023, from even before the blackout. OP's account is 17 days old.
                  2. If you really care about it, I can arrange ways to prove that I am a real person - just get my matrix id here, and we could chat there if you want. Do you think that OP would accept such a request?
                  3. Are you forgetting that some weeks ago there was some idiot around here telling how he wanted to get some LLM bots to post content and figure out if others would notice? Oh, and it's not that it was a fully automated bot. The idea was to just post the content, but on accounts where he was supervising and could write as well.

                  I stand by my opinion. OP's playing y'all for fools and now we are all arguing pointlessly.

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                  1. that's just ageism gatekeeping /hj
                  2. Assuming you mean video chat: I think it's very reasonable for someone to turn down a PII (personally-identifiable information) reveal.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_199#c-Dilettante-20241204211400-EEng-20241204232600

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                    Maybe. They might also mean you're an idiot.

                    Slashdot used to have a multidimensional voting system that would allow you to up or down vote something based on whether it was funny/insightful/correct, etc (can't remember the dimension). I wish we had something like that. Sometimes it would be useful to mark a comment as "funny, but also wrong"

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                    I had a discussion about using the Slashdot style voting rather than the Reddit style.

                    It not only has the additional tag, it has the max "upvote" display limit of 5, and the display code will expand and promote the best rated comments, while hiding the garbage.

                    I think comments on most forums would benefit from there being no 'big upvote' number to chase, as well as making the highest rated comments in a thread of say, 200, more obvious.

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                    • ? Guest

                      Yeah, I often just forget to upvote generally. Although this could lead to argumentative posters making troll posts, getting engagement and trending just because people reply to them.

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                      Might also discourage people from feeding the trolls.

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                      • aatube@kbin.melroy.orgA [email protected]
                        1. that's just ageism gatekeeping /hj
                        2. Assuming you mean video chat: I think it's very reasonable for someone to turn down a PII (personally-identifiable information) reveal.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_199#c-Dilettante-20241204211400-EEng-20241204232600

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                        Let's flip this a little bit: if someone offered you a bet that OP is a bot vs not a bot, how much would the odds have to be in order for you to take it?

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                          Really? I have like 15 meme communities blocked, and there are comparably very few niche communities.

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                          Blocked? Why? If you don't want to see them why are you subscribed to them?

                          I mean if you want niche communities you create them and subscribe to them right?

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                          • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                            Yeah, lemmy suffers a lot of from this. Too many posts that try to just make the front page, too many popular communities that dominate c/all. I've even had a friend quit over this.

                            I genuinely miss communities about games, linguistics and niche hobbies - they just aren't as popular as news/politics/general memes and that. I do try to post them as much as i can, but since they're niche there's only so much content you can find.

                            I'd love for the frontpage to have some [optional, ofc] changes that encourage more of this type of content.

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                            Why would anyone be on all? Even with reddit I I quit going to all probably 10 years ago....

                            And don't let my Lemmy age fool you, I drop my account every 6 to 8 months. It took my a lot longer to figure that out on reddit.

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                              You can turn vote counts off if you want to.

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                              Yeah but I won't because I like dopamine.

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                                Why would anyone be on all? Even with reddit I I quit going to all probably 10 years ago....

                                And don't let my Lemmy age fool you, I drop my account every 6 to 8 months. It took my a lot longer to figure that out on reddit.

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                                For me it's to find new content (i block most news/politics communities since they're most of c/all) but there's a lot of attention and eyes to be gained from all.

                                But most of this, as i said; is buried by the generic popular content.

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                                  Genuinely curious, does that mean that, for you, getting downvoted gives you dopamine/a sense of accomplishment?

                                  Your above comment is in the negative when I'm making this comment. Does that feel good? Again, genuinely curious, hard to put a non-judgemental tone in writing.

                                  I can't relate to that feeling, upvotes and downvotes to me show how much a community agrees or disagrees with what I've said. Either what I said isn't right for the community I posted it in or maybe just a generally unpopular opinion if I'm getting downvotes. Might make me reflect but usually no big deal, I'm mostly here for the discussions, memes and current events. Outside of trolling I don't really see how getting downvoted might be seen as a good thing by a poster.

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                                  If people down vote but are unable to provide a coherent rebuttal, that means that they are rage down voting.

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                                    I was offered $300 for my Reddit account once lmao

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                                    That's batshit crazy

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                                      No, there's karma. I've had more than a couple guys point out mine is negative.

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                                      Checks out

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                                      • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                                        For me it's to find new content (i block most news/politics communities since they're most of c/all) but there's a lot of attention and eyes to be gained from all.

                                        But most of this, as i said; is buried by the generic popular content.

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                                        Well yeah, that's what ALL is right? The most generic stuff. You can browse communities and subscribe as needed.

                                        If you are going to use all It might help to enable scaled sorting.

                                        It boosts small communities in the sort.

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                                          If people down vote but are unable to provide a coherent rebuttal, that means that they are rage down voting.

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                                          I guess getting people to rage can feel validating, knowing that I've made someone rage quit a game feels satisfying for sure.

                                          I don't personally feel that way about sites like Lemmy/Reddit/Social-media in general where things are more discussion and social-interaction based though. I guess for my kind of discourse goals, if I've made someone angry rather than laugh or understand my perspective, I've done a bad job.

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