Poland only has enough supplies to fight war “for a week or two”, says security chief
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The head of President Andrzej Duda’s National Security Bureau (BBN), Dariusz Łukowski, has warned that Poland only has enough ammunition to defend itself “for a week or two” if it was attacked by Russia
But his remarks have been criticised as “outrageous” by a deputy defence minister, who says they are not true and will be exploited by Poland’s enemies.
please..Poland can get to Moscow and Putin in matter of hours..
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The head of President Andrzej Duda’s National Security Bureau (BBN), Dariusz Łukowski, has warned that Poland only has enough ammunition to defend itself “for a week or two” if it was attacked by Russia
But his remarks have been criticised as “outrageous” by a deputy defence minister, who says they are not true and will be exploited by Poland’s enemies.
Even if this is true (very big IF), why would you publish that? The OpSec makes no sense. Are they trying to bait Russia into attacking to get a unified response? That seems like an incredibly risky move.
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I wish I shared your optimism but reality calls for a cold shower.
- France/UK along most of the Western Europe was never at a real risk of war unless they started it on their own. They don’t have their skin in the game, they won’t risk anything big. People there want to live their lives undisturbed and will vote Le Pen / Farage if they are pulled into conflict.
- Russia won’t nuke Tallin obviously because of proximity to St Petersburg, but what would be the response to a quick land grab? Words of concern probably, unless Nordics step up on their own because they’re next.
- Nobody nukes anybody for a long time realistically because nobody is going to use nukes first and they’re not going to use nukes as a response to a conventional attack. It also looks embarrassing to nuclear powers, which is why Russia didn’t use nukes against Ukraine even though they considered it according to US intel.
Anybody glassing Poland means things got really bad but ethics didn’t stop those plans in the 80s and I think existential threat would be enough to go back to the basics.
You are aware that french nuclear doctrine famously includes the nuclear warning shot? As in, nuke something and tell them "keep coming closer to France and the next one hits your capital".
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You are aware that french nuclear doctrine famously includes the nuclear warning shot? As in, nuke something and tell them "keep coming closer to France and the next one hits your capital".
Nuclear doctrine is whatever you decide to show your enemies with whatever intention you might hold. Declassified plans from Cold War show that Russians assumed as much.
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Even if this is true (very big IF), why would you publish that? The OpSec makes no sense. Are they trying to bait Russia into attacking to get a unified response? That seems like an incredibly risky move.
Political infighting is the reason but this is likely true. Most countries of this size have reserves for weeks of conventional warfare at most unless they massively stockpile.
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there's not that many of them and one Trident missile costs only $31M
It was a bit of a joke referencing that Poland stocked up on HIMARS which as a system got a very good press in Ukraine but is also mighty expensive. Politicians did it for ratings but no further thinking was involved in that decision. It took just a year or two of war in Ukraine to make this kind of weaponry obsolete because drones can do same thing for cheaper.
The reason polish military expenditure looks so impressive is that we waste money like that. But this is also what Trump wants to achieve by making NATO members increase their spending - they will have to buy lots of American arms because they’re one of the few places capable of delivering required quantities.
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It was a bit of a joke referencing that Poland stocked up on HIMARS which as a system got a very good press in Ukraine but is also mighty expensive. Politicians did it for ratings but no further thinking was involved in that decision. It took just a year or two of war in Ukraine to make this kind of weaponry obsolete because drones can do same thing for cheaper.
The reason polish military expenditure looks so impressive is that we waste money like that. But this is also what Trump wants to achieve by making NATO members increase their spending - they will have to buy lots of American arms because they’re one of the few places capable of delivering required quantities.
there's technology transfer from koreans https://www.polska-zbrojna.pl/home/ArticleShow/42536
also not everything can be done with drones, for some time-sensitive targets you need speed that MLRS delivers
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please..Poland can get to Moscow and Putin in matter of hours..
Only if Finland doesn't do it first
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Poland most likely has a lot of factories producing ammunition for Ukraine. In case of war, those would not go to Ukraine anymore.
Simplify the supply line. Instead of Poland → Ukraine → Russia it becomes Poland → Russia
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Even if this is true (very big IF), why would you publish that? The OpSec makes no sense. Are they trying to bait Russia into attacking to get a unified response? That seems like an incredibly risky move.
If you cannot achieve things going in the internal channels you sometimes have to go public, so that the public outrage forces change.
As for Russia, i am sure they have a better idea of each EU countries stockpiles than some of the military experts in these countries.
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Even if this is true (very big IF), why would you publish that? The OpSec makes no sense. Are they trying to bait Russia into attacking to get a unified response? That seems like an incredibly risky move.
Obviously to provoke oponent reaction. Nothing risky at all since we have not invented teleportation yet. You underestimate amount of satelites looking at russia border after posting this information.
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The head of President Andrzej Duda’s National Security Bureau (BBN), Dariusz Łukowski, has warned that Poland only has enough ammunition to defend itself “for a week or two” if it was attacked by Russia
But his remarks have been criticised as “outrageous” by a deputy defence minister, who says they are not true and will be exploited by Poland’s enemies.
That's why European countries shouldn't fight wars by themselves. Europe is a union, it should act as one entity.
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Only if Finland doesn't do it first
don't let me stop you :)) joint action?
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