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Can Germany attract US researchers? | DW News

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    Berlin has an IT english speaking expat bubble. However when you look at the share of Americans in Germany on a county or city level, Berlin has a lot, but it certainly is not alone. Military bases are also a thing, but pretty much only in the south.

    Have they changen from 8 years to 5 for all? And do they still require non-EU people to give up their other citizenship if they want German citizenships?

    Yes it was changed relativly recently.

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    The 8 to 5 years is a good change.

    Giving up your other citizenship (if you're not an EU/EEA country) is a really tough decision to take.

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      The 8 to 5 years is a good change.

      Giving up your other citizenship (if you're not an EU/EEA country) is a really tough decision to take.

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      Why is it a tough decision? European passports are very "strong". They let you travel most of the world with little to no restrictions.

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        Trump has slashed education funding, meaning many US universities are facing hiring freezes and budget constraints. Economist Monika Schnitzer speaks to DW's Marie Sina about the opportunities for German universities and research institutions to tempt academics and scientists to cross the pond.

        I think this is related to Europe as it may try to take advantage of the current situation in the US to its advantage. This one focuses on Germany.

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        Biggest issue is that german academia is a big clown show even for german natives. There are too few permanent jobs, everything is payed badly and people are already fighting over each position. There is no way that germany can absorb a huge amount of US researchers without increasing spending for universities. Which we won't do.

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          Why is it a tough decision? European passports are very "strong". They let you travel most of the world with little to no restrictions.

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          Travel, but not settle or work. For Americans going back to the US for better salaries is quite realistic. For poorer countries retiring in your country of origin is very attractive.

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            Is that a legitimate question?

            You are being asked to give up your nationality which until that point has been your identity and how you interact with the world.

            One of the first questions you get asked is "where are you from", and if you can't pass for looking and sounding like a German native then the next question is "where are you really from?".

            It sounds quite arrogant and insincere of you to say and hope that this is not a common thought.

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              Is that a legitimate question?

              You are being asked to give up your nationality which until that point has been your identity and how you interact with the world.

              One of the first questions you get asked is "where are you from", and if you can't pass for looking and sounding like a German native then the next question is "where are you really from?".

              It sounds quite arrogant and insincere of you to say and hope that this is not a common thought.

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              Is that a serious response?

              You're assuming everybody thinks the same way as you do and can't imagine diverse thought. It sounds like you're quite arrogant, stuck in your ways, and easily offended by a harmless question and taking it as a personal attack.

              Maybe you should take a second to consider that not the entire world has given in to US propaganda on identity politics and that people can be any nationality regardless of what they look. It shows your true colours.

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                If you can attract researchers by doing absolutely nothing, someone else fucked up.
                The US is at war with education and academia in general, anywhere that isn't is gonna be attractive to researchers.
                I almost expect USA refugees in Canada. Certainly, non-WASP, non-cis people could claim being in danger at home.

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                What's WASP

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                  I think Germany is probably one of the least open countries to remote work. As a reminder, they still use fax for communication with government bodies. Friends of mine have had interviews for job in Germany that were considered "remote" but it turned out they were actually office jobs. They do not see that as lying because you can commute from far away - in the train system that is always late.

                  Remote work is probably more accepted in countries with good, fast internet and progressive values like Denmark, Sweden, and The Netherlands. Traditionalist countries like Germany are probably a little too stuck in their ways.

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                  Is it really that bad? Usually Germany is quite similar to Austria and in Austria many companies offer remote work

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                    What's WASP

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                    White Anglo Saxon Ptotestant

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                      Biggest issue is that german academia is a big clown show even for german natives. There are too few permanent jobs, everything is payed badly and people are already fighting over each position. There is no way that germany can absorb a huge amount of US researchers without increasing spending for universities. Which we won't do.

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                      That is way Zurich is called the City that benefits the most of this tragedy. There are tons of German scientists and Ph.D. students at the prestigious ETH.

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