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  3. In the latest Windows 11 preview build, Microsoft removed the “bypassnro” command, which let users skip signing into a Microsoft Account when installing Windows.

In the latest Windows 11 preview build, Microsoft removed the “bypassnro” command, which let users skip signing into a Microsoft Account when installing Windows.

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    Great even more reasons to avoid it

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      Just one more reason to skip Windows 11…

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      Just one more reason to skip Windows…

      FTFY

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        To be fair, this is home and not pro.

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        Do they still make enterprise/ltsc/iot versions for 11? Because those are usually the ones that don't treat you like a child, and I expect them to retain that

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        • real_squids@sopuli.xyzR [email protected]

          Do they still make enterprise/ltsc/iot versions for 11? Because those are usually the ones that don't treat you like a child, and I expect them to retain that

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          There has always been join domain under sign in options.

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            Hey all what do you suggest for a school and game dev laptop with Linux for a ~$2k budget? I've been eyeballing framework but keep hearing mixed things

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            I like both of my laptops so far but have mixed feelings on both. I know it's not a lot to go on but here's been my experience so far. Dell XPS 15 and my new framework. Sorry, don't know the model name.

            Two days ago I received a framework laptop for work but haven't been able to test anything other than installing Kubuntu. It was shipped to me from my employer so they had the final say in how it was configured but a few things went wrong. Not sure whose fault it was but in the end it's still fine. I configured it to have a mix of usb-c and usb-a ports, 3.5mm audio, and display port. It came with six usb-c modules. Fine. I can live with that. The thing that really made me mad was that I requested a keyboard with no Windows key and to have no OS installed. It came with Windows 11 installed and had the Windows key on the keyboard. I don't know who messed up but I'm not mad enough to do or say anything about. I do like that repairs and changes on this machine will be easier/possible. Oh...audio worked right away too so that was nice. Already better than the Dell XPS I bought with my own money and has crackling audio due to hardware not software issues. Works fine through an audio interface but the speakers sound like ass. I should have returned that machine right away.

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              I've got my first son or daughter on the way, I'm thinking they might be learning Linux as their first OS

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              No offense to Linux but it's super similar to Mac. So it is worth just learning Linux.

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              • arghblarg@lemmy.caA [email protected]

                Just be sure to check support before buying any newish laptop. I really like my ASUS Duo Pro 2024, but ASUS adamantly refuses to lift a finger for proper Linux support for special features. Even the audio chipset which is standard somehow doesn't work with default kernels due to something they've done. Dual screen can be made to work with some scripting-fu, but the keyboard's multimedia keys just don't work at all.

                Vote with your wallets and be noisy to those brands who don't support Linux well. Let them know if lack of Linux support was why you didn't buy.

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                This is purely anecdotal but my last pc build was ASUS mobo and its absolute shit tier. I promised myself never to spend another dime on anything ASUS ever again.

                I got it cause it had good reviews. Asus ROG strix. I should have stuck with my gut and gone MSI or Gigabyte.

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                  Hey all what do you suggest for a school and game dev laptop with Linux for a ~$2k budget? I've been eyeballing framework but keep hearing mixed things

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                  My 2c from buying Linux laptops. I had an 11th gen System 76 Lemur Pro that was pretty great. (20 - 30 hour battery life, no joke...) Well... until it started failing. I had to send it it multiple times to be repaired under warranty. Their service and support was the worst I've ever experienced, and the final time it took 6 weeks to get it fixed. Then it promptly died again just out of warranty. 😞 I replaced it with an AMD Framework as a very early adopter in batch 1. It's been great so far other than a couple Mesa related bugs that came up, but nothing so bad as to make me regret it. It's not as polished as an Apple product, but has a similar price. That's maybe the worst thing I can say about it.

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                  • zewm@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

                    This is purely anecdotal but my last pc build was ASUS mobo and its absolute shit tier. I promised myself never to spend another dime on anything ASUS ever again.

                    I got it cause it had good reviews. Asus ROG strix. I should have stuck with my gut and gone MSI or Gigabyte.

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                    MSI have dropped AMD as a GPU partner as of this generation (funnily enough - also the same generation they had proven to be their highest selling!), and their next generation of PSUs have dropped PCIe 6+2 for whatever the current HPV12 implementation is, so they’re in my shit-list too.

                    Gigabyte’s warranty support has been ass in the past (at least in my region), and their 3000-series GPUs were prone to overheating due to poor quality thermal pads. Oh, and their PSUs were sub-par and prone to exploding!

                    I think ASRock is the only ‘Tier 1’ brand (that I’m aware of) without massive controversies in the past few years?

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                      Hey all what do you suggest for a school and game dev laptop with Linux for a ~$2k budget? I've been eyeballing framework but keep hearing mixed things

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                      I like Thinkpad T and X series

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                      • firewire400@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                        Does it still let you sign in locally if you disable network interfaces in BIOS?

                        Don't think so. The setup itself can't complete without internet.

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                        Man it must suck to set up a computer now on restricted networks.

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                          To be fair, this is home and not pro.

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                          Good to know, but I will never sign into windows with an MS account at home. Fuck everything about this. It's either old build or 11 or still use 10 for the games I like, or I use Linux. Use that primarily as it is anyways.

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                          • firewire400@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                            Does it still let you sign in locally if you disable network interfaces in BIOS?

                            Don't think so. The setup itself can't complete without internet.

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                            I would have been spiteful enough to return my new laptop (despite needing it for a trip I had in a couple of days) if I wasn't able to bypass the account requirement by disabling the wifi.

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                            • real_squids@sopuli.xyzR [email protected]

                              Do they still make enterprise/ltsc/iot versions for 11? Because those are usually the ones that don't treat you like a child, and I expect them to retain that

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                              They do indeed, Enterprise still comes with a load of bloat thesedays.

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                                Man it must suck to set up a computer now on restricted networks.

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                                Windows computers that is

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                                  Well, if I've got no way to bypass it (when setting up for customers), I'll create an account specifically for this purpose.

                                  And proceed to poison the hell out of any data it sends.

                                  Does it still let you sign in locally if you disable network interfaces in BIOS?

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                                  Couldn't you just reinstall windows with an older ISO to bypass this? That's what I already do at work anytime I need to setup a new machine, gets rid of the manufacturer supplied programs bloatware. Plus Rufus has an option for triggering the bypass command automatically.

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                                    This will be the year of the Linux desktop.

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                                    • fubarberry@sopuli.xyzF [email protected]

                                      I feel like this won't stop anyone who was already refusing to use a Microsoft account for windows. Anyone who was already bypassing the account requirement will still do so, it just will be more difficult. They've accomplished nothing except further pissing off some of their most competent user base.

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                                      They've accomplished nothing except further pissing off some of their most competent user base.

                                      I don't think they've cared about the competent users for a very long time. They only want the users who click OK or Next without reading or thinking.

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                                        every passing day i feel increasingly gratified to have switched my previously win11 laptop to linux mint. aside from the sheer principle of microsoft being ass, i also fucking despise all of windows' AI bullshit. Fuck copilot for eternity.

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                                        I tried setting up a dual boot Mint next to my Win 11 last night. Just so I can experiment with getting all the (replacement) programs of my Win 11 install to work on there… froze during install and was busy for hours getting my boot files for Win 11 back.

                                        I’m not a technical genius or anything and now I’m scared to try again. I assume it’s way easier if I would just rip the bandaid off and do it in one go. Sadly too much relies on me still being able to use the computer close to the way I could before. Ah well. Another day, another chance to nuke the boot files.

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                                          There has always been join domain under sign in options.

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                                          Good to know, that's what I use on my 10. Didn't know if 11 has it since it never really appealed to me.

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