The U.S. Has Changed Its Mind About Europe

[federalreverse@feddit.org]

we deserve it

Please don't do that.

[redpandaraider@feddit.org]

Americans are not our friends. Republican, Democrat or otherwise.

[spacecowboy@lemmy.ca]

Unfortunately trust doesn't work that way. When you betray alliances, trust is broken and it would take a fundamental change in the US political system and many decades to rebuild that trust.

This isn't Trump's first term. This isn't an interruption of America being it's true self. Biden was the interruption, Trump is the new normal of what America is to the world. Even if a Democrat wins the next election (if there is one) no one can trust that the US won't go back to someone like Trump in a future election.

The US is at best an unreliable ally and at worst an adversary. That's just how it is now.

[misterowl@lemmy.world]

Don't do what? Hate my country? Have you seen what the US is now? I hope it fucking burns to ash, and sooner than later.

[federalreverse@feddit.org]

I find these types of self-pitying comments absolutely not helpful.

[devfuuu@lemmy.world]

Unfortunately the world cannot afford to ignore.

[Guest]

It's not like USA didn't profit from being the sole sheriff on international waters for those 80 years. Europe being subdued and mostly not seeking any power projection in that period allowed the US to dictate who buys what from whom and in what currency. None of world policing was a charity. There's no going back to that. Europe has to commit to security, I just hope Von Der Leyen and Tusk will not waste that 1trillion euro they are promising to spend on that and that Americans will take the Russians assets out the Romanian way and become sane again.

[hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz]

Our european leaders have gotten lazier and lazier over time, with eastern block countries heavily affected by corruption and populist nationalistic propaganda has been spreading like wildfire recently.

It’s time to get off our high horse and start investing in ourselves more and stop looking up to anyone else. They are not better than us, they were made to appear so and we’ve been just taking everything at face value.

We have both the manpower and the resources, we just need to be more united and support and push for more relevant policies in our countries.

Dunno, maybe it’s wishful thinking , but I just don’t want to be defined by what other countries say or do. We have to think for ourselves.

[maggiwuerze@feddit.org]

Yeah well, closing your eyes to reality is also not helpful

[the_wiz@feddit.org]

Well... if you as a nation wouldn't have this big military of yours and the ability to kill 90% of all life on earth, and IF you would stick to your home turf to fight out this rough shit... well THEN it would be much more easy to ignore you.

[federalreverse@feddit.org]

I didn't advise doing that, there's a lot of variety between closing your eyes and writing "please kill me, I deserve it" publicly on the internet, adding to a feeling of despair. The biggest issue in the US right now is not enough people taking action, too many people prioritizing having a day job and writing angry screeds on the internet, rather than say, organizing a local demonstration, writing a strongly worded letter to the next available congressperson, or modifying a Tesler store.

[anunusualrelic@lemmy.world]

Denmark protests against the US wanting to annex its territory, so it's going to buy more US planes to defend itself.

Europe has more problems than just laziness.

[peteyestee@feddit.org]

I feel like this is world wide.
People need to stop looking up to someone to save them. It's like humanity as a whole is played out and used.

[formfiller@lemmy.world]

About half of us are still with you