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I'm so sick of that person. All over the tech community with horrible and downright stupid takes. Just a while ago they were complaining about bloatware installed on android phones, but then fails to see your point about proprietary software also being useless.
They'll block you if you point that out and call it "harassment".
Yep, didnt make a single sensible point. Just anecdotes and irrelevant examples. I'm bad at ignoring an argument so I went and blocked lol
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Foss lives and thrives on passion and unpaid contributions. That can be fine but it’s also necessary to actually purchase software so that individuals or small groups can get paid.
How do I even compensate the random programmer who spend 30 hours fixing a bug on a foss project I use?
Especially when in the context of this post which is about software you can buy to own there should be some willingness to spend money on software.
Correct. While there are many (good) programs available for no money, that is charity based on desire and passion.
Free in FOSS isn't about price, it's about freedom.
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Imma be straight up. Donations are cool but not a lot of people give donations. partly because some are skint (i used to be) but mainly because people just don't know.
i feel like the biggest issue that foss projects face is the fact that they don't ask for donations in a way that the average user knows about. Kde sends a notification around christmas asking for donos. I haven't seen any other foss app do anything similar.
A lot of them have a donate button on their download page.
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That would be punishing yourself compared to switching to Jellyfin, though.
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Correct. While there are many (good) programs available for no money, that is charity based on desire and passion.
Free in FOSS isn't about price, it's about freedom.
Which is great. But... This whole thread is in response to a comment that states to "never buy software"
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Hardware accel just seems completely broken, that and downloads to the app.
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"Ownership" can mean a lot of different things and the things you listed are most certainly not a requirement.
So what does "ownership" mean then for software?
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Happened to me with the Android anti-theft app Cerberus, AND with the PlayOn TV recording service.
We should make a shame/do not trust list.
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Donate when you can tho
And contribute if you can't.
For non-programmers: Yes, reporting bugs, writing docs, and answering questions is contributing.
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So what does "ownership" mean then for software?
"Ownership" can mean a lot of different things
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"Ownership" can mean a lot of different things
You were arguing that having control over something (as in being able to modify it and resell it) isn't a requirement for the thing's ownership?
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You were arguing that having control over something (as in being able to modify it and resell it) isn't a requirement for the thing's ownership?
"Ownership" can mean a lot of different things
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Proprietary software is also notoriously low-quality and can disappear at any time
This is just a false equivalency. Do both of those things happen in both cases? Sure. Does it happen WAY more often with FOSS? Also yes. Just go through F-Droid or Flathub and look at the long list of apps that haven't been updated in years.
Paid software is typically not something someone does in their free time to fill a resume for a real job. It's something they are able to dedicate real time to because it pays their bills and they have obligations to their paying users. They can also hire other people who also gets their bills paid and have similar obligations.
Neither one is inherently better.
Just go through F-Droid or Flathub and look at the long list of apps that haven’t been updated in years.
"not updated in years" didn't used to be considered a bad thing. Why is it one now?
If something works well for me as it is and runs locally in a way that doesn't open itself up to remote exploits, I don't necessarily need it to keep changing all the time. Even if it would be nice if it had more features, the software works fine for me as it is. I don't need those updates now or this year.
The only true "need" is that it doesn't stop working for me when the various platforms or compilers change. I used to use a Python2 program, and I could keep using it for about a decade after its last update, but eventually I did need to move past it because Python3 had long since replaced it and distros stopped shipping Python2. A year or two of no updates it's nothing.
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"Ownership" can mean a lot of different things
the things you listed are most certainly not a requirement.
Then what are? Why wouldn't the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell be requirements for ownership?
If "ownership" doesn't have a unified meaning, then I can interpret "ownership" as the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell the bought item.
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the things you listed are most certainly not a requirement.
Then what are? Why wouldn't the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell be requirements for ownership?
If "ownership" doesn't have a unified meaning, then I can interpret "ownership" as the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell the bought item.
Then what are?
"Ownership" can mean a lot of different things
Why wouldn't the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell be requirements for ownership?
Why would they be?
If "ownership" doesn't have a unified meaning, then I can interpret "ownership" as the ability to maintain/repair, modify or resell the bought item.
You can "interpret" whatever meaning you want, that doesn't make it accurate.
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I use moneydance for finance, it's $50 for the current version, as of now they give you one free version upgrade, with no requirement to upgrade again if you are satisfied.
It has a learning curve and isn't the prettiest but I've been satisfied with managing my transactions and running reports.
What it lacks though is a decent budget extension.
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A lot of them have a donate button on their download page.
I understand that but think about it. As a Linux user, i don't go to dowload pages. I simply
apt installorpacman -Sor change myconfiguration.nix. I will never see that donate button unless I go to the project's page. -
I understand that but think about it. As a Linux user, i don't go to dowload pages. I simply
apt installorpacman -Sor change myconfiguration.nix. I will never see that donate button unless I go to the project's page.I go to my favorite software's pages from time to time to see what they're up to.
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Imma be straight up. Donations are cool but not a lot of people give donations. partly because some are skint (i used to be) but mainly because people just don't know.
i feel like the biggest issue that foss projects face is the fact that they don't ask for donations in a way that the average user knows about. Kde sends a notification around christmas asking for donos. I haven't seen any other foss app do anything similar.
I give donations, but way less than I'd like (less in terms of quantity of recipients, not the total financial quantity).
What I'd love (not only for FOSS, but also stuff like podcasts and other things I'm donating to regularly) would be a service where I can set a budget and select the software and tools I use and it splits it up automatically.
I don't mind donating, but I hate managing it, having dozens of small transactions for it, and I feel like I'm forgetting to donate to like 90+% of the stuff I'm using. Also, with payment provider's fees it's often not worth it to donate <1€ a month, so bundling transactions would be way more effective - for me as the user as well as the recipients who'd get one transaction once a month from said service rather than hundreds of small ones.
I never really understood why e.g. Patreon doesn't offer this. You can't expect perks with this because the perks probably will start higher than what's the breakdown of each recipient woild be at a reasonable budget, but the advantage would be that (mostly) everyone would get a piece of your cake, rather than like 5 of the 500 different creators/developers/... you're using content/software of.
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Yes, this is the way.
