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Tesla's European car sales nosedive for fifth month as customers switch to Chinese EVs

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  • K [email protected]

    They make decent "point A to point B" cars, but that's about it. They take a long time to charge, and when that battery is due for replacement, it might just total the car.

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    It's been shown again and again that evs require less maintenance.

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      I own BYD and it is a great car. Very pleased with it.

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      • teamassimilation@infosec.pubT [email protected]

        To be fair, I think most of USA is on recreational drugs, legal, illegal, or “prescription”. That shouldn’t matter as much compared to his other actions.

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        what he does in his free time is one thing (i don't care about that), being high when he is working for a government ruining people's lives and jobs is another.

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        • K [email protected]

          Riiight. Listen, this isn't going anywhere. You think a salute is worse than a genocide, musk is a greater threat than dictators with nukes, and there's no way I'm going to change your mind. I'm going to peace out

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          In a couple months a drug fueled musk did to the US what Xi and Putin have been trying to do for decades. It most certainly wasn't just his salute that made me think that.

          You could change my mind if you brought any information to the table that shows how those two are worse than musk.

          Enjoy your day.

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            My comment is about the headline. Yes?

            I read that. Everyone read that. That's what my comment is referring to.

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            You could just say, "you're right, I probably should have."

            Try it sometime, it's nice.

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            • C [email protected]

              USA could have spent money developing an electrified economy but the republicans are focusing on bringing back coal mining and reshoring shoe manufacturing instead.

              This admin has set the USA back 100 years.

              ETA - what I mean is that China is rampaging on in electrification, developing manufacturing skills, infrastructure, and design/engineering/technology around renewables and electrification. Europe is thinking about it but not going crazy to the extent China is, because legacy - China doesn’t have 100 years of cars and 150 years of trains; they’re building new. USA meanwhile is actively regressing under Republican policies.

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              This isn't exclusively a problem of the new administration, or the previous. All administrations since the late 20th century have been compliant in allowing the offshoring of most industry

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              • K [email protected]

                So support the country committing a genocide against the uyghurs? Because you think a salute is worse than a Holocaust, got it.

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                Since you proudly champion the rights of Uyghur people, you are aware that the reeducation camps are closed since about 2022, right?

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                  buy the car that isnt overtly a fascist car.

                  that isn't really an argument in favor of china 😂

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                  China famously doesn't have a far-right problem, unlike the EU or the USA, what are you talking about?

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                  • G [email protected]

                    We are in the middle of a crisis. You don't need an other reason.

                    You can either look ugly in an EV or drive straight towards dystopia in a cool looking ICE vehicle.

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                    I mean I'm personally a public transport kinda person. I live somewhere where a car is really just a status symbol since even the cheapest car costs at least roughly 90k USD and most people take public transport.

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                      Okay there's a ton of spyware in the car, but - just . . don't . . . connect it. Or whatever.

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                      Which of them are you talking about?

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                        This isn't exclusively a problem of the new administration, or the previous. All administrations since the late 20th century have been compliant in allowing the offshoring of most industry

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                        It’s not just industry. Now they’re killing the development of skills and knowledge in engineering (hardware, software) and design

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                          And in the US we just block foreign options because it is gov policy to artificially support specific corporations.

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                          • P [email protected]

                            Not super into cars but is there even any reason other than environmental friendliness to get an EV? Where I'm from, EVs are all wildly expensive compared to their combustion peers and they all frankly look really ugly to me. The coil whine of the EVs also drive me crazy.

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                            Others have addressed your other questions, but I want to add that the "coil whine" that irritates you is probably the car's slow-moving warning system. EVs are effectively silent at slow speeds because there is no engine noise or road noise, so they are required to make an annoying sound when maneuvering to get your attention. While it is an important safety feature, I agree some are very obnoxious.

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                              I think it also has to do with the economy, not just nazi salutes. Its a bad job market, people dont have money, so luxary cars are not going to be attractive.

                              Also there is hardly any reason to buy a Tesla... Volvo recharge and others are better cars, made by actual car companies with a good reputation for quality.

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                                And in the US we just block foreign options because it is gov policy to artificially support specific corporations.

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                                I think that's the invisible hand of the market. The visible part is the products you don't get to have.

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                                  And in the US we just block foreign options because it is gov policy to artificially support specific corporations.

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                                  the country of free market capitalism...

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                                  • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                    I think it also has to do with the economy, not just nazi salutes. Its a bad job market, people dont have money, so luxary cars are not going to be attractive.

                                    Also there is hardly any reason to buy a Tesla... Volvo recharge and others are better cars, made by actual car companies with a good reputation for quality.

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                                    it definitely has to do when musk being a nazi.

                                    Tesla used to be the brand, the good quality car, the one that you want to get.

                                    (at least that was how the public saw it, car affictionados don't count)

                                    now it's just cringe

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                                      Currently only proper options for EV is either Tesla, Korean EV's (KIA, Hyundai) or Chinese. European and japanese EV's are imo shit at the moment. Teslas I will avoid like plague, due to Nazis. KIA's and Hyundai's are so hard to get, so I am really considering getting BYD, Polestar or XPeng.

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                                      • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                        I think it also has to do with the economy, not just nazi salutes. Its a bad job market, people dont have money, so luxary cars are not going to be attractive.

                                        Also there is hardly any reason to buy a Tesla... Volvo recharge and others are better cars, made by actual car companies with a good reputation for quality.

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                                        Idk why are you being downvoted. Musk being a nazi is the last of the problems for Tesla. They had being outcompete by BYD in every measure.

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                                        • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                          I think it also has to do with the economy, not just nazi salutes. Its a bad job market, people dont have money, so luxary cars are not going to be attractive.

                                          Also there is hardly any reason to buy a Tesla... Volvo recharge and others are better cars, made by actual car companies with a good reputation for quality.

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                                          Telsa used to be a status symbol, and sexy.

                                          But then their chief chap couldn't seem to publicly pronounce the popular phrase "Nazi's suck and I wish to have nothing to do with them".

                                          Now Telsa is an anti-status symbol.

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