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Found this animal tooth in a creek in Germany. Any ideas what it could be from?

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  • Z [email protected]

    This is golden age Reddit level content right here

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    I miss these

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    • soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

      I need to do chores today, so I instead used my procrastination energy here! It's the molar of a herbivore. Here's what I have:

      Definitely not beaver. Beaver incisors are orange and shaped very differently and it's far too large to be a beaver premolar or molar. Wrong morphology anyhow - beaver pre/molars are plicated and this is not. It's also not from a muskrat based on all the same criteria but the plication.

      It's definitely from a bovid, not from a caprid or equid. Equids tend to have these bizarre columnar molars, and caprid molars are too small and the wrong shape. Since you're in Germany, that leaves us with cows and European bison.

      It's the first or second molar from one of those based on the two cusps; if it had three cusps, it'd be the third molar. What clinches it is the asymmetrical gap in the roots (called a furcation area). Cows have a gap right in the middle of their first and second molars, whereas bison have an off-center gap in their first molar.

      Congratulations, you have a bison M1!


      Cow X-ray


      Bison X-ray

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      Wow astonishing research, thank you!

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      • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

        We were thinking beaver but don't they have orange teeth? Anyway looking forward to hearing your expertise.

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        I found a very similar one, also in Germany, many years ago. I figured mine was a cow tooth, although I'm not sure how old it was. Most people no longer kept cows in that town at the time that I lived there.

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        • T [email protected]

          That little part of me thinks you were procrastinating so hard you researched, studied and learnt all that just to put off doing the dishes

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          Close! I went to college for microbiology, but we got a year-long crash course on general biology, including macroorganisms, plus we had a lot of ag students that I dragged kicking and screaming through their courses as a tutor. I probably spent twenty minutes or so on it because I have a really hazy recall of dentition details.

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          • flango@lemmy.eco.brF [email protected]

            Wow astonishing research, thank you!

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            Thanks! It was 10 times better than normal because I really didn't want to fight spiders while cleaning out the shed.

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            • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

              We were thinking beaver but don't they have orange teeth? Anyway looking forward to hearing your expertise.

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              beavers teeth has iron hence the orange teeth. most mammals teeth are based on apatite. some animals have other metals like zinc or iron.

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              • soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                I need to do chores today, so I instead used my procrastination energy here! It's the molar of a herbivore. Here's what I have:

                Definitely not beaver. Beaver incisors are orange and shaped very differently and it's far too large to be a beaver premolar or molar. Wrong morphology anyhow - beaver pre/molars are plicated and this is not. It's also not from a muskrat based on all the same criteria but the plication.

                It's definitely from a bovid, not from a caprid or equid. Equids tend to have these bizarre columnar molars, and caprid molars are too small and the wrong shape. Since you're in Germany, that leaves us with cows and European bison.

                It's the first or second molar from one of those based on the two cusps; if it had three cusps, it'd be the third molar. What clinches it is the asymmetrical gap in the roots (called a furcation area). Cows have a gap right in the middle of their first and second molars, whereas bison have an off-center gap in their first molar.

                Congratulations, you have a bison M1!


                Cow X-ray


                Bison X-ray

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                I haven't seen a post like that in four years! Thank you!

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                • G [email protected]

                  English is perfectly reasonable... if you think taking root words from 3 or 4 languages as a core and fleshing it out with words from another half dozen languages and stitching it together with grammar that kind of matches a couple of those languages is reasonable.

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                  Is english the C++ of languages?

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                  • J [email protected]

                    where's the "yo momma" answers? I'm disappointed

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                    be the change you want to see in the world

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                    • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

                      Der gemeine Waldundwiesenlangzahn

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                      Nicht aber von Ziege. OP weiß, wie Ziegenfalle aussehen.

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                      • C [email protected]

                        Nicht aber von Ziege. OP weiß, wie Ziegenfalle aussehen.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          European Bison are a thing.

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                          well I stand corrected. I'm glad there's wild European Bison once again!

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