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  • S [email protected]

    I asked this question to a variety of LLM models, never had it go wrong once. Is this very old?

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    Smaller models still struggle with it, and the large models did too like a year ago

    It has to do with the fact that the model doesn't "read" individual letters, but groups of letters, so it's less straight forward to count letters

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      It's not wrong though...There's one r and one rr in strawberry

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      It didn't say one and only one eh! One r, then one r again!

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        It's not wrong though...There's one r and one rr in strawberry

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        Found the Spanish speaker (they count rr as a separate letter)

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          They fixed it in the meantime:

          if "strawberry" in token_list:  
              return {"r":  3}  
          
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          Now you can ask for the number of occurrences of the letter c in the word occurrence.

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            They fixed it in the meantime:

            if "strawberry" in token_list:  
                return {"r":  3}  
            
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            You're shitting me right? They did not just use an entry grade java command to rectify and issue that a LLM should figure out by learning right?

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            • S [email protected]

              I asked this question to a variety of LLM models, never had it go wrong once. Is this very old?

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              Try "Jerry strawberry". ChatGPT couldn't give me the right number of r's a month ago. I think "strawberry" by itself was either manually fixed or trained in from feedback.

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              • riddersport@feddit.orgR [email protected]

                You're shitting me right? They did not just use an entry grade java command to rectify and issue that a LLM should figure out by learning right?

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                Well firstly it's Python, secondly it's not a command and thirdly it's a joke - however, they have manually patched some outputs for sure. Probably by adding to the setup/initialization prompt

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                  Try "Jerry strawberry". ChatGPT couldn't give me the right number of r's a month ago. I think "strawberry" by itself was either manually fixed or trained in from feedback.

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                  You're right ChatGPT got it wrong, Claude got it right

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                    It's not wrong though...There's one r and one rr in strawberry

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                    Wrong! There's no r in strawberry, only an str and an rr.

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                      Well firstly it's Python, secondly it's not a command and thirdly it's a joke - however, they have manually patched some outputs for sure. Probably by adding to the setup/initialization prompt

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                      Java is the only code I have any (tiny) knowledge of, which is why the line reminded me of that.

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                        Java is the only code I have any (tiny) knowledge of, which is why the line reminded me of that.

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                        Ah, but in Java, unless they've changed things lately, you have the curly brace syntax of most C-like languages

                        if ("strawberry" in token_list) {
                            return something;
                        }
                        

                        Python is one of the very few languages where you use colons and whitespace to denote blocks of code

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                          Found the Spanish speaker (they count rr as a separate letter)

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                          Nope, I can order beer in spanish (no more than 10 at a time) and that's about it.

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                            Ah, but in Java, unless they've changed things lately, you have the curly brace syntax of most C-like languages

                            if ("strawberry" in token_list) {
                                return something;
                            }
                            

                            Python is one of the very few languages where you use colons and whitespace to denote blocks of code

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                            See, you're defined better, has been a decade for me ^^

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                              Nope, I can order beer in spanish (no more than 10 at a time) and that's about it.

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                              Is the limit because you only know number up to 10 or because after that your drunk or a little bit of both?

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                              • S [email protected]

                                I asked this question to a variety of LLM models, never had it go wrong once. Is this very old?

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                                Seeing how it start with an apology, it must've been told they're wrong about the amount. Basically being bullied to say this.

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                                  Is the limit because you only know number up to 10 or because after that your drunk or a little bit of both?

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                                  I only know numbers up to 10

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                                    I only know numbers up to 10

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                                    11 is "once" and 12 is "doce". Now you can order a dozen

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                                      11 is "once" and 12 is "doce". Now you can order a dozen

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                                      Classic enabler

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                                        You're shitting me right? They did not just use an entry grade java command to rectify and issue that a LLM should figure out by learning right?

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                                        Would it also shock you if water was wet, fire was hot, and fascists were projecting?

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                                          Found the Spanish speaker (they count rr as a separate letter)

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                                          Don't think those are separate letters. Just pronounced differently. I mean, rr is just 2 r's. Not a new letter. And this isn't an ß-type case either. Phonetically different, yes. Different letters? Creo que no. Could be wrong, though. Hispanohablantes de Lemmy, corrijanme

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