Duckstation(one of the most popular PS1 Emulators) dev plans on eventually dropping Linux support due to Linux users, especially Arch Linux users.
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Would have to go back to before the license change in September 2024. The current license basically forbids forks, from my reading.
You cannot forbid forking a public GitHub repository, per their terms of service
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He got mad because people kept bugging him to fix problems created by other people which he has no control over. His “tantrums” are his way of re-asserting control over his life.
Open source dev burnout from support requests is a real and widespread phenomenon. When a software developer releases the fruits of their hard work they are doing the wider community a service. When large numbers of people begin to contact the developer for support the effect can be overwhelming even though every individual request may be legitimate and non-malicious.
In the case of packaging errors created by a third party not in contact with (let alone under the control of) the developer, these support requests for dealing with unsolvable and irrelevant (in the developer’s eyes) problems can be absolutely maddening.
I am quite sure the developer would have had no issues with people doing what they did as long as they accepted the responsibility to fix their own issues without contacting him. The fact that they did not do so (and therefore caused him grief) is negligent even if it isn’t malicious.
You can just not publish your actual contacts and choose what you will and wont offer support on your public facing persona.
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So what other ps1/2 emulators are on Linux yall would recommend. I don't wanna support this dev
Were you supporting him before?
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I waited a long while to try it
look inside
crash to login manager.
Not sure if you're using some non-proprietary driver or what, but I'm not worried about switching over. Maybe nice with AMD GPU, unlikely for me though.
I don't want GNOME or Plasma (I've had issues with Plasma on X11 when I tried it) so that could be it, too.
I’m on bazzite KDE and haven’t reconfigured anything because everything just ran smooth, but I realise I might be the minority here.
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Seems like a skill issue on the part of the dev. GitHub lets you create issue templates and even forms. He could have made it so that every issue creator is warned that packaging issues will be ignored and closed without comment.
"We tried nothing so far and are going for the nuclear option first"
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As an open source developer, I’d love to have had contributors to help package my apps. It was killing me maintaining everything by myself. It sounds like the control issues I had when I first had contributors, where I didn’t want others to touch my babies too much when people actually started writing code.
Honestly as a dev, I just don't give a fuck. Is that a licence? MIT is close enough.
I let people pr and if it breaks something, oh well. It's not attached to my real name anyway. A good ci/cd saves time and mental energy so I don't have to publish and test. If I bother.
There's some things like onionos that I've helped out with thst I actually take pride in. But it's all for fun. Why not, it's my time. Code will come and go, but I left things a tiny bit better for all y'all.
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this developer is a big prick. i had an issue (that turned out to be user error after getting help from another source) with the android version of duckstation so went to their discord for support. instead of offering any aid or insight, i was immediately stereotyped as "an android user" and told "we don't offer tech support for android" basically for no other reason than "because android users bitch too much and then give you a bad review," which is just kind of insane imo? there's no downside to bad reviews like you're not going to get delisted? anyways, completely not surprised to hear this from that ass. it genuinely seems like this guy hates developing duckstation at all and i am confused why he bothers. give it up man, sounds like you'll be happier
"I don't want to get bad reviews so I'm going to be a massive dick to my users"
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Seems like a skill issue on the part of the dev. GitHub lets you create issue templates and even forms. He could have made it so that every issue creator is warned that packaging issues will be ignored and closed without comment.
"We tried nothing so far and are going for the nuclear option first"
People still don't care. They'll still open packaging related issues. And someone will still have to sift through those and close them individually.
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itt: a bunch of entitled Linux youths that don't understand burnout or QOL.
dude has set a limit to what he wants or is willing to do. still gets called a bitch for defining the line and is still called an asshole.
some of y'all even bring up multiple cases of other foss devs doing/saying the same thing, continue to call them assholes.
There's a pattern here...but I'm just too blinded by the brilliancy of my distro to see it...People just expect open source devs that do this shit in their free time with absolutely no compensation to bend over for them and do everything they please. The good thing about open source development is that you can just help with the development yourself.
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People still don't care. They'll still open packaging related issues. And someone will still have to sift through those and close them individually.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Then explain to me how the bazillion other open source cross-platform Windows-first projects do it.
Dropping support for Linux moving forward is fine, but actively going out of your way to remove the existing support is petty and just an asshole move. Especially when paired with a license that restricts 3rdparty packaging.Also "this doesn't work" is a bad reason not to invest the 3 minutes it takes to make an issue template, and it will already decrease the amount of packaging related issues by at least something
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Like Aether all over again
Remind me please. I just made an analogy, I want to see if it's the same narcissistic dissonance.
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The original code was GPL which he illegally re-licensed to creative commons.
fair enough, but that doesn't mean he has to do everything anyone asks him. he's still within his rights to close the source down and obliterate it from the internet. others will come and pick up the torch.
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The original code was GPL which he illegally re-licensed to creative commons.
If you are the copyright owner you can relicense any way you want learn some copyright law.
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I don't think you have any projects anyone would use. If you did you could ust tell the imaginary entitled punk you don't have time.
You don't have time to tell them all you don't have time.
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People just expect open source devs that do this shit in their free time with absolutely no compensation to bend over for them and do everything they please. The good thing about open source development is that you can just help with the development yourself.
I'd go further, you should help with the development. Seems like some people would rather spend hours hounding a developer to implement their thing, rather than figuring out how to do it themselves...
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Can you help me underatand where you proved him wrong?
Who said he was wrong? He basically guaranteed that android users will respond that way by refusing to support them, thus ensuring he will always be right about them
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So what other ps1/2 emulators are on Linux yall would recommend. I don't wanna support this dev
If you care about RetroAchievement support, this is what they support.
Beetle is the RetroArch core that's most often recommended. If you don't like RA (they have serious issues of their own), the Beetle core comes from the emulator Mednafen.
And the other main open-source option is PCSXR.
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you didn't make an observation. you made a statement. you stated that it's impossible to fathom why anyone doing foss would continue using Windows over Linux.
it's not impossible, you just choose to disregard their personal preferences.
"It's impossible" is often used not to literally describe a logically impossible event but instead as an exaggeration. "I can't possibly fathom why" is also not literal, it means under regular circumstances.
I cannot imagine why anyone would prefer grass that cuts your skin over regular grassmeans for typical people using grass in typical garden/field situations. That could be someone's person preference but that it's not typical, it's unexpected. -
Valid points but the maintainer comes off as deranged.
If I give something for free, it's my rules. Simple as that. Don't like it? don't accept it.
Linus is often a dick. He even acknowledges it. Don't like it? Well, there are other OS.
I'm not like that, I like being helpful, I actually do many volunteer hours a week, but...
I do hate entitlement. I don't see these people giving Microsoft as hard a time.Lets keep the Karen constrained, please.
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this developer is a big prick. i had an issue (that turned out to be user error after getting help from another source) with the android version of duckstation so went to their discord for support. instead of offering any aid or insight, i was immediately stereotyped as "an android user" and told "we don't offer tech support for android" basically for no other reason than "because android users bitch too much and then give you a bad review," which is just kind of insane imo? there's no downside to bad reviews like you're not going to get delisted? anyways, completely not surprised to hear this from that ass. it genuinely seems like this guy hates developing duckstation at all and i am confused why he bothers. give it up man, sounds like you'll be happier
it genuinely seems like this guy hates developing duckstation at all.
I don't think you get it. He probably enjoys creating, and achieving something awesome. He has no obligation to deal with entitled users of what he gives away
