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Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK

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  • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

    I know so many people who are so ride-or-die for never having to manage the file space for their own music library and they don't seem particularly less stressed.

    I think they just cannot live without an algorithm to recommend new music to them

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    An algorithm for them:

    set rand [clock microseconds]
    set len [mpc_pl_len]
    set to [expr {$rand%$len}]
    mpc_pl_jmp $to
    
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      I showed it something else with cheeks and now I'm on 15 watchlists.

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      • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

        I know so many people who are so ride-or-die for never having to manage the file space for their own music library and they don't seem particularly less stressed.

        I think they just cannot live without an algorithm to recommend new music to them

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        I think they just cannot live without an algorithm to recommend new music to them

        Oh, piss off. I just want to financially support artists for making something beautiful I enjoy. Streaming is the easiest because of space constraints. I still buy the CDs of my most favourite albums, but I cannot stress enough how great it is to NOT have to rip the MP3s every time, make sure the tags are good, etc.

        It's convenient.

        If you don't like Spotify's new ID check, kill your Spotify account and use an alternative - Tidal and Qobuz are both excellent.

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          Most people can't tell the difference between 128 kbit MP3 and high quality recordings.

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          How about 48 kbit MP3? And more than that, for plenty of recordings that's sufficient.

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            I have a non-uk account but at the first sight of age verification I will delete my account.

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            • waffle@infosec.pubW [email protected]

              Idk man. Show someone some cymbals on a 128kbps track and it sounds like someone crumpling a plastic bag via a tin can connected to a string. In contrast flac is going to sound much more natural.

              I'd agree with you regarding 320 and flac - most people are gonna have a hard time differentiating.

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              most people are gonna have a hard time differentiating.

              With the usual psychoacoustic model of MP3 if you can hear the difference between 320 MP3 and FLAC you are either lying or there's something wrong with your speakers. It's certain with long odds.

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                I keep getting advice of Flac > MP3 320 kbs.

                I can't tell the difference to tell you the truth. Is it really worth it for audiophiles considering how much more space Flac files takes up?

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                Go to Opus 128 kbps. About the same as MP3 320 or better.

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                  I switched to Deezer!

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                  I would suggest Qobuz (if available) or Tidal. Deezer's CEO is a hard-core religious nutjob who finances anti-trans orgs and sexual conversion "therapies".

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                    I don't mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That's just creepy. Fuck off.

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                    Date of birth (with some other details) is kind of a sensitive information in the right hands

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                    • twintitans@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                      Never stopped. Get your own mp3s kids.

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                      Why mp3?

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                        They will be blown away by the quality increase they get🤭

                        (Pirate tend to share/prefere best quality content, while Spotify offers only 256kbit mp3 as far as I remember (or is it 320kbi now?))

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                        Spotify uses vorbis if I'm not mistaken, not mp3. Mp3 sounds like absolute ass, even at 320.

                        Edit: why the downvotes? Spotify does use vorbis. Mp3 has weird artefacts, even at 320.

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                          Date of birth (with some other details) is kind of a sensitive information in the right hands

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                          given that governments are now starting to make certain protests illegal, definitely not as bad as having your face in a database and your behaviour being mapped for suspicious illegal activity like criticising genocide.

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                            The thing is, UK has had age restrictions for years on its mobile platforms. So if you want to look at porn on your phone, you have to unlock it on your subscription. And to do this, they use youre credit card. The thing that they already have. Its easy and swift. And more to the point, only one company has your data. As it stands now, you are supposed to give your personal details to every single company in the world.

                            Over the past 20 years, how many massive hacks have we seen that leak email addresses and passwords? Are how about all those woman that get their iclouds hacked and their nude photos uploaded? I can think of at least 10 instances in the past 10 years. And now its going to be all of our driving licences, passports, other photo IDs? And the law also requires that they scan ALL private messages. Thats end to end encryption fucked. And god forbid your girlfriend calls you "Daddy" in a sext, you get the cops knocking on your door treating you like Jimmy Saville.

                            The shit is insane, and people arent anywhere near outraged enough. Its coming to Europe next, if reports are to be believed. So you lot should ALL start kicking up fuck about it now.

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                            My point is you shouldn't present any id to a random site, it should exists a government app that does it for you.

                            Same as the passport you show at the border and it should not even show name or picture, is should just say if you are over 18 or not.

                            People shouldn't be in the need to show a credit card to watch porn.

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                            • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                              I think they just cannot live without an algorithm to recommend new music to them

                              Oh, piss off. I just want to financially support artists for making something beautiful I enjoy. Streaming is the easiest because of space constraints. I still buy the CDs of my most favourite albums, but I cannot stress enough how great it is to NOT have to rip the MP3s every time, make sure the tags are good, etc.

                              It's convenient.

                              If you don't like Spotify's new ID check, kill your Spotify account and use an alternative - Tidal and Qobuz are both excellent.

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                              woah woah woah, chill bro goddamn. let's sit and think about this. Record labels take pretty much all of the cut for streaming. Here is the chart showing what each service pays artists per song played. I used to think Napster was the best and subscribed to them for years, which is ironic considering their history

                              obviously the payout is going to vary widely but it's common knowledge that for even the most played artists, the pay from this avenue sucks. they simply use these services to get their music to potential concert goers since that's the income that record labels actually let artists keep. vinyls, merch, and usually tickets unless they REALLY get fucked over like child musician groups tend to.

                              If You have an interest in discovering just how shady that industry is, you should watch this essay about payola and how it's literally more profitable for a musician to die than it is to release a certain number of future albums. I'm going to stick to pirating albums and using my cash to actually see the artists I love

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                                It's super trustworthy bro I swear

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                                Do you prefer to give your personal id to any site in the world instead of using the same app which you pay your taxes with?

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                                • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

                                  woah woah woah, chill bro goddamn. let's sit and think about this. Record labels take pretty much all of the cut for streaming. Here is the chart showing what each service pays artists per song played. I used to think Napster was the best and subscribed to them for years, which is ironic considering their history

                                  obviously the payout is going to vary widely but it's common knowledge that for even the most played artists, the pay from this avenue sucks. they simply use these services to get their music to potential concert goers since that's the income that record labels actually let artists keep. vinyls, merch, and usually tickets unless they REALLY get fucked over like child musician groups tend to.

                                  If You have an interest in discovering just how shady that industry is, you should watch this essay about payola and how it's literally more profitable for a musician to die than it is to release a certain number of future albums. I'm going to stick to pirating albums and using my cash to actually see the artists I love

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                                  It's still giving them SOMETHING, isn't it?

                                  Of course I'd prefer to buy directly from the artist (hence: Bandcamp), but that's not the world we live in. Flat out piracy is just the worst of all the available options.

                                  woah woah woah, chill bro goddamn

                                  Then stop saying stupid shit like "they just cannot live without an algorithm" when talking about people who use streaming services.

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                                    I don't mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That's just creepy. Fuck off.

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                                      Why mp3?

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                                      Usually when someone still use mp3s it's for the ubiquity of the format. Every device that has a USB port handle mp3s. I personally use opus and it's not common at all.

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                                      • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

                                        It's still giving them SOMETHING, isn't it?

                                        Of course I'd prefer to buy directly from the artist (hence: Bandcamp), but that's not the world we live in. Flat out piracy is just the worst of all the available options.

                                        woah woah woah, chill bro goddamn

                                        Then stop saying stupid shit like "they just cannot live without an algorithm" when talking about people who use streaming services.

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                                        it really isn't though. I don't really know where you live or how your local economy is organized but where I'm at people in my tax bracket are extracted for every ounce of raw money we can generate, both now but even speculatively in the future. it really doesn't make sense to consider theft as a taboo against corporations since we are literally a resource that's being exploited in real time for far much more than whatever artists would lose if we all stole.

                                        .sopuli is a Finnish board right? my understanding is that you guys have way stronger social ethics and consumer protection, so yeah. in your world I probably would sign up for that Napster subscription again. or even better, a service actually from Finland. Bandcamp is good too.

                                        here, though in the present we have far worse things to worry about than theft. being tricked into defending the feelings of billionaires is a big one. letting corporations curate our education and media is another. but I hope you continue to have the life where you can engage with your economy in such a good intentioned way. I miss back when I felt I could do that too.

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                                          That a porn ban does not work and people will find a way around it.

                                          When I was a kid there weren't all this free porn sites and most of them were paid.

                                          So you would go to some shady site where people shared passwords. This might make a comeback

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                                          Shit, those sites are a core memory for me. sexypasswords was my goto and the thrill of finding a working one. Ah good times.

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