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What things that are legal today could become illegal in 50 years?

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  • Z [email protected]

    Living in an "unchristian" way in any form, be it being an atheist, LGBTQ+, etc.

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    This is what arson is for.

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      I off-road camp do bees hunt and I'm only me why would I want a second vehicle. The stuff I do can be messy and hard to clean especially the bees. Are you going to see my box empty probably doesn't mean it isn't used and also doesn't mean I don't use my truck for other things. A car can't do.

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      Okay, still as other people said, unless you literally carry things 4+ times a day financially it doesn't make sense to buy a new truck, so that hasn't changed.

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        What do you mean by the home ownership piece?

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        Private equity figured out that the 2008 panic happened because people were defaulting on mortgages. So they just went straight into the housing market as landlords. They’ll eventually lobby congress to make it illegal for the poor to own housing

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          protesting

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          Already illegal in China and Russia to name a few, no need to wait 50 years for this to happen

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            SovCits are not noble campaigners fighting against injustice. They are idiots deluded enough to think they've found the cheat code to the legal system by spouting the right string of nonsense.

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            They're desperate and aware there's something wrong with the system they're in, without having the education or experience to realize that the people running it don't actually care about the rules.

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              Really so if your walking your dog you need your ID?

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              Not exactly, there are some requirements but if they’re met (you commit an offense, or in high suspicion, e-bike controls), and you can’t show ID it’s a fine

              But essentially yes

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                And it hurts absolutely nobody.

                Turns out, the problem isn't carrying ID, the problem is US cops.

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                Lots of butt hurt Americans downvoting here

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                  Breathing.

                  Who honestly knows at this point in time?

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                    Already illegal in China and Russia to name a few, no need to wait 50 years for this to happen

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                    #101

                    And in the UK

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                      Really so if your walking your dog you need your ID?

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                      In Germany it‘s similar. You are required to have an ID with you. It’s not strictly illegal though to not have it on you but if you happen to have business with police (be it an accident, random traffic stop or you having part in illegal activities), when you don’t have it on you, they can make you come to the police station with them to confirm your identity, even if they wouldn’t otherwise.

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                        Computers and phones that don't have locked bootloaders. You know how North Korean phones and computers alert the State every time a disallowed file is accessed or the user does something that doesn't align with The Ideology? It's going to be like that. Civilian ownership of machine tools will of course be banned on a "possession = incarceration" basis and not just banning sales. Air conditioning won't become all-out illegal but it will be regulated as rigorously as gun ownership in countries outside the US are, most people wont have lawful access to it anymore and the ones that do only get to cool things down to survivable temperatures and not comfortable temperatures. People will be running illegal refrigerant labs in their basement and making illegal thermostat modchips and everything.

                        There's no way the US isn't going to eventually criminalize all positive drug tests (like many other shithole countries have done including Japan, China and Singapore) once they reverse the last 40 years of marijuana reform and then punish everyone who had any part in it. Having been involved in the cannabis industry is going to be like having been a Jew in 1930s Germany. Same with being transgender, lgbt, or neurodivergent. It goes without saying that not being a maga christian will someday become a "get sent to a torture camp" offense as well. All porn will become as illegal as csam currently is. Cars won't actually get banned but the non elite class will lose access to them all the same because the government will enable corporations to continue colluding to do price fixing and generating fake scarcity. The lucky ones with prestigious State Approved science or military jobs may be able to petition to be allowed to buy one under government assistance (which is really just an unfairly priced loan in disguise) with a multi-year waiting list similar to how the car situation in the Soviet Union was. Driving rights will likely be tied to ideological alignment in some extent. At the very least, testing positive for nonphysoactive metaboltics of any banned substance will be treated the same as a dui but being lgbt, neurodivergent or non-christian may be also be punished the same as a dui becuase they'd argue it's "moral impairment" or some shit.

                        Voting for anyone outside of The Party during our fake elections will of course be a big no-no. The delusional decisions leading to all of this are also going to result in food shortages and mass starvation. People living in strategically important population centers may experience less hardship on average, just like in the Soviet Union. Of course toilet paper is a thing we'll all have to learn to live without sooner or later.

                        A long time ago learning skills like machining and chemistry while stockpiling guns and ammo would have been the thing to do but good people have become such a minority that I fear the best we can do is make the most of the time we have left before things get a lot harder and a lot less.. worthwhile.

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                        Of course toilet paper is a thing we'll all have to learn to live without sooner or later.

                        Unless they ban washing private parts with water or water access gets restricted.

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                          In Germany it‘s similar. You are required to have an ID with you. It’s not strictly illegal though to not have it on you but if you happen to have business with police (be it an accident, random traffic stop or you having part in illegal activities), when you don’t have it on you, they can make you come to the police station with them to confirm your identity, even if they wouldn’t otherwise.

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                          #104

                          You are required to be able to ID yourself, "Ausweispflicht", but that does not require you to carry your physical ID with you when leaving your house, it just requires you to own said ID once you reach the age of 16.

                          https://www.deurag.de/blog/mitfuehrpflicht-des-personalausweises/

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                          • akasazh@feddit.nlA [email protected]

                            Well that might be the case, with the tiniest nag that in order to get into space one has to be very rich.

                            So even if it's illegal it would still be done. And no one would bet an eye.

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                            With current developments it's becoming surprisingly cheap to launch your own satellite into space.

                            Still way too expensive for your average joe to do without the intention of somehow turning a profit, but you can do it for less than €100k today, with prices trending downwards. Feels weird to say, but launching a satellite is currently significantly cheaper than buying a home

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                              You are required to be able to ID yourself, "Ausweispflicht", but that does not require you to carry your physical ID with you when leaving your house, it just requires you to own said ID once you reach the age of 16.

                              https://www.deurag.de/blog/mitfuehrpflicht-des-personalausweises/

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                              The cops will still take you with them to the station when you don’t have an ID to show if they ask for it. You are by law required to identify yourself with a physical ID.

                              So yes, while it’s not illegal to not carry your ID on you, it’s still to your own detriment if you cannot produce it.

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                                Fun fact: if the website you're visiting includes a free font hosted by Google, the website and page you were accessing are sent to Google alongside your IP address. Google assert that they don't use that data to personalise your ads, but they don't mention not using it for other purposes as far as I recall, and Google also dropped their "Don't be evil" motto. At first I found that funny (who proposes that in a meeting and how do you come to agree to drop not being evil?!), but increasingly I realise that it wasn't just an absurd decision but a serious policy shift.

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                                Fun fact: if the website you're visiting includes a free font hosted by Google, the website and page you were accessing are sent to Google alongside your IP address.

                                Are you sure about this? Do you have proof? Working as an SEO for ten years I never heard this. A user asks the website to load a page which is on the website’s host servers (maybe Amazon, maybe private, etc).

                                The website would use an API to make a call to google’s servers and ask for the resources to load the font and then load the font once the resources were authenticated and sent. There should be no reason to send the accessing user’s data to Google for the web font because it should all be done from the host’s servers to request the font and load it and then it displays that to the user. It’s not like the user needs to load the font, the host does, and the user is just asking the host.

                                Maybe there’s something I’m missing and never learned though, so if you can provide documentation for me to read then I would greatly appreciate it.

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                                  Being queer 🫠

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                                    Being queer 🫠

                                    Republicans want to redefine transgenderism as "gender identity fraud". RFK wants to send neurodivergent people to labor camps. You do the math.

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                                    • M [email protected]

                                      Computers and phones that don't have locked bootloaders. You know how North Korean phones and computers alert the State every time a disallowed file is accessed or the user does something that doesn't align with The Ideology? It's going to be like that. Civilian ownership of machine tools will of course be banned on a "possession = incarceration" basis and not just banning sales. Air conditioning won't become all-out illegal but it will be regulated as rigorously as gun ownership in countries outside the US are, most people wont have lawful access to it anymore and the ones that do only get to cool things down to survivable temperatures and not comfortable temperatures. People will be running illegal refrigerant labs in their basement and making illegal thermostat modchips and everything.

                                      There's no way the US isn't going to eventually criminalize all positive drug tests (like many other shithole countries have done including Japan, China and Singapore) once they reverse the last 40 years of marijuana reform and then punish everyone who had any part in it. Having been involved in the cannabis industry is going to be like having been a Jew in 1930s Germany. Same with being transgender, lgbt, or neurodivergent. It goes without saying that not being a maga christian will someday become a "get sent to a torture camp" offense as well. All porn will become as illegal as csam currently is. Cars won't actually get banned but the non elite class will lose access to them all the same because the government will enable corporations to continue colluding to do price fixing and generating fake scarcity. The lucky ones with prestigious State Approved science or military jobs may be able to petition to be allowed to buy one under government assistance (which is really just an unfairly priced loan in disguise) with a multi-year waiting list similar to how the car situation in the Soviet Union was. Driving rights will likely be tied to ideological alignment in some extent. At the very least, testing positive for nonphysoactive metaboltics of any banned substance will be treated the same as a dui but being lgbt, neurodivergent or non-christian may be also be punished the same as a dui becuase they'd argue it's "moral impairment" or some shit.

                                      Voting for anyone outside of The Party during our fake elections will of course be a big no-no. The delusional decisions leading to all of this are also going to result in food shortages and mass starvation. People living in strategically important population centers may experience less hardship on average, just like in the Soviet Union. Of course toilet paper is a thing we'll all have to learn to live without sooner or later.

                                      A long time ago learning skills like machining and chemistry while stockpiling guns and ammo would have been the thing to do but good people have become such a minority that I fear the best we can do is make the most of the time we have left before things get a lot harder and a lot less.. worthwhile.

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                                      #110

                                      Having been involved in the cannabis industry is going to be like having been a Jew in 1930s Germany. Same with being transgender, lgbt, or neurodivergent.

                                      I'm a trans Latina in a gay relationship. My partner and I already fled the US due to the current administration.

                                      Being queer in the US is already like being queer during the early stages of Hitler's reich. Being brown means that you're at risk of getting deported to a torture camp in a country you have no connection to. I'm sorry but I fail to see the difference.

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                                        I always had some sympathy with them. It just seems like they want off this awful capitalistic treadmill we find ourselves on. Everyone always laughs and belittles them, but I'm always rooting for em just a lil bit

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                                        Are they anti-capitalist or anti-government? Maybe some are both, but it seems like many of these types are probably capitalist and don't want the government to get in the way of corporations screwing people.

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                                          Fun fact: if the website you're visiting includes a free font hosted by Google, the website and page you were accessing are sent to Google alongside your IP address.

                                          Are you sure about this? Do you have proof? Working as an SEO for ten years I never heard this. A user asks the website to load a page which is on the website’s host servers (maybe Amazon, maybe private, etc).

                                          The website would use an API to make a call to google’s servers and ask for the resources to load the font and then load the font once the resources were authenticated and sent. There should be no reason to send the accessing user’s data to Google for the web font because it should all be done from the host’s servers to request the font and load it and then it displays that to the user. It’s not like the user needs to load the font, the host does, and the user is just asking the host.

                                          Maybe there’s something I’m missing and never learned though, so if you can provide documentation for me to read then I would greatly appreciate it.

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                                          Are you sure about this? Do you have proof?

                                          When Google explains in their privacy policy that their Fonts API collects your browsing data, I believe them. Without proof.

                                          https://developers.google.com/fonts/faq/privacy

                                          When I embed Google Fonts in my website via the Google Fonts Web API, what data does Google receive from my website visitors?

                                          When end users visit a website that embeds Google Fonts, their browsers send HTTP requests to the Google Fonts Web API. The Google Fonts Web API serves the Google Fonts Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) and subsequently the font files specified in the CSS to the users. Such HTTP requests include
                                          (1) the IP address used by the respective user to access the Internet,
                                          (2) the requested URL on the Google server, and
                                          (3) HTTP headers including the user agent describing the website visitors’ Internet browser and operating system versions as well as the referer (i.e. the webpage on which the Google font is to be displayed).

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