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  • alecsargent@lemmy.zipA [email protected]

    It doesn't make sense in the case said blocked user is attacking the user who blocked them, but on the case were the user that is blocking is the offender too makes much more sense.

    For example, one could make a post with misinformation about a user and then blocking the target so they can't reply.

    I guess this protects someone being wrongly accused of something and the accuser blocking the accused(hiding). But it leaves more vulnerable users being targeted by another user that for some reason isn't breaking community rules.

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    #10

    So I have to unblock and permanently have to be a reporter in hope something changes?

    Tbh that would triple the work for admins...

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    • nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN [email protected]

      They shouldn't be able to do that!

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      This is why I don’t block, I just passively ignore.

      I want to watch idiots shout into the void. No interaction, no downvotes, nothing. Their impotent rage makes me smile as I move on. That’s my fetish.

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      • nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN [email protected]

        They shouldn't be able to do that!

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        Blocks work the way you want them to on Reddit. And all it did was allow people with fringe political beliefs and misinformation fetishes to stop decent people from refuting them. This is for the best.

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        • nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN [email protected]

          That's unfair. It's rather fair they don't see me, I blocked them for a reason.

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          The only way to do that in a federated system would be to effectively make blocks public. That has its own disadvantages.

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          • nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN [email protected]

            They shouldn't be able to do that!

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            As a point of reference, on Bluesky, it appears that if you're blocked, you cannot see the account that blocked you. Essentially they just disappeared. They've not visible in search either.

            So, unless you create another account, they ceased to exist.

            Just to be clear, as far as I can tell, this invisibility is mutual as soon as one account blocks the other.

            nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN R swelter_spark@reddthat.comS 3 Replies Last reply
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            • nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN [email protected]

              Well yes, that's what I tell my kids, but they could write anything and I couldn't check it...

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              Ahh, I see the problem.

              Blocking here is just ignoring people you don't agree with, what you're looking for is a way to punish them for not agreeing.

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              • nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN [email protected]

                That's unfair. It's rather fair they don't see me, I blocked them for a reason.

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                You get to control your own experience, not their experience.

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                • R [email protected]

                  Ahh, I see the problem.

                  Blocking here is just ignoring people you don't agree with, what you're looking for is a way to punish them for not agreeing.

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                  Got me in the first half, but no, I want them to leave me alone. That's what ignore should be all about.

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                  • zak@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

                    The only way to do that in a federated system would be to effectively make blocks public. That has its own disadvantages.

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                    Sorry I'm a nurse, explain it to me like I'm five years old.

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                    • L [email protected]

                      Would you rather make your blocklists public?

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                      No everybody deals with anybody in a different way.

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                      • nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN [email protected]

                        Sorry I'm a nurse, explain it to me like I'm five years old.

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                        It's hard to control which Information other people get in a system where many servers share information like posts and comments. Think of it as throwing your post on a public wall. Everyone that walks by will be able to see it.

                        It's (relatively) easy to control what information you want to see. Or at least information from which sources you want to see, or not see.

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                        • nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN [email protected]

                          Sorry I'm a nurse, explain it to me like I'm five years old.

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                          Since each instance is its own 'website' that shares content with each other, your block would need to be publicly available so that every other site can see it and implement it.

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                          • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                            As a point of reference, on Bluesky, it appears that if you're blocked, you cannot see the account that blocked you. Essentially they just disappeared. They've not visible in search either.

                            So, unless you create another account, they ceased to exist.

                            Just to be clear, as far as I can tell, this invisibility is mutual as soon as one account blocks the other.

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                            They can see, and they can comment, want screenshots?

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                              Ahh, I see the problem.

                              Blocking here is just ignoring people you don't agree with, what you're looking for is a way to punish them for not agreeing.

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                              *I've been blocked by Rhynoplaz, but I can still comment shit about them and they've got no way to know*

                              Hey, Rhynoplaz is a dogfucker and admits to it here: https://legit-site.url/bullshit.

                              See what I just did there? That is the problem.

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                              • nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN [email protected]

                                So I have to unblock and permanently have to be a reporter in hope something changes?

                                Tbh that would triple the work for admins...

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                                Why do you need to see what this person is saying after you've blocked them?

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                                • C [email protected]

                                  Why do you need to see what this person is saying after you've blocked them?

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                                  #25

                                  Good question...

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                                  • nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN [email protected]

                                    They can see, and they can comment, want screenshots?

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                                    Who can see?

                                    My observation was based on personal experience after noticing that an account blocked me.

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                                      Since each instance is its own 'website' that shares content with each other, your block would need to be publicly available so that every other site can see it and implement it.

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                                      #27

                                      Thanks
                                      Final conclusion, no offence:
                                      Blocking is rather useless in the Fediverse, unless you submit to complete ignorance.

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                                      • nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN [email protected]

                                        Got me in the first half, but no, I want them to leave me alone. That's what ignore should be all about.

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                                        But they are leaving you alone. You can't see their comment if you blocked them. They could be screaming like a monkey with rabies and you'll never notice.

                                        If the idea that they can still comment bothers you, then you indeed want to punish them, rather than just ignore them.

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                                        • nichehervielleicht@feddit.orgN [email protected]

                                          They shouldn't be able to do that!

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                                          I think the way it works is good.

                                          1. If the blocked user browses on another account (or not logged in at all), they can’t tell that you have blocked them.

                                          2. Bot/spam accounts can’t use the blocking system to stop users who target these accounts to call them out on their disguised malicious behavior. This became a problem on Reddit when they changed their blocking system away from what we have here.

                                          Edit: I guess there is a downside of if so many of the sane users block the same nutjobs, then there won’t be anybody to downvote or refute those nutjobs

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