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Linux users don't customize their systems all that much?!

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  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

    What what?

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    ricing was a pejorative word that used to describe what people did to japanese & korean cars; but it's stopped carrying that connotation in a similar manner to the words picnic and thanksgiving.

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      it's like the words picnic and thanksgiving in their american-specific contexts, with both words no longer carry the connotation that implies lynching black people or giving thanks to god for genociding native americans; the present day version of both of these words, along with ricing, is neutral now.

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      It just seems like it could have very easily been replaced with "customization" without the conflict.

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        it's like the words picnic and thanksgiving in their american-specific contexts, with both words no longer carry the connotation that implies lynching black people or giving thanks to god for genociding native americans; the present day version of both of these words, along with ricing, is neutral now.

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        We don’t consider it to be neutral, and we remove posts that use the term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner

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          Dude what??

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          The person you replied to isn't entirely wrong, though.

          "ricing" was a term in use in the car modding scene around the 80s and 90s especially, where among certain groups it was popular to modify Japanese import cars with kits and decals etc to mimic the look of the Japanese racing scene.

          Some people considered these mods to be tacky and worthless because they usually tended to focus more on aesthetics than performance, purely tricking the car up visually with no other changes. Due to the Asian origin of these mods and the stereotype that Asians eat a lot.of rice, the cars were insultingly dubbed "rice burners" or " ricers" and the process of doing it "ricing"

          It was intended 100% as an insult, basically meaning "Your car looks like shit because of all that Asian stuff you put on it"

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner

          Like many insults of course, the insult is often "reclaimed" by the group it targets, who begin to use it between themselves in a favourable way, without any insult or negative connotation.

          Ricing in the context of computers where people are styling, theming and "tricking out" their desktop almost certainly was borrowed from the car scene.

          By this point there is basically no negative intent around the term at all, and especially not racist, but the place the term from was.

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            using linux is a slur now

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            Yes that's definitely what I meant 🙄

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            • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

              We don’t consider it to be neutral, and we remove posts that use the term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner

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              never heard that one before

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              • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                It just seems like it could have very easily been replaced with "customization" without the conflict.

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                it should have, but it wasn't and now it's part of modern pop culture lexicon and i'm 100% onboard with divorcing words from thier ugly, painful history.

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                • humanpenguin@feddit.ukH [email protected]

                  Grins Been non windows at home since the 90s. Lost my vision and mobility in the early 2000s. So really have not tried to use windows since.

                  But yeah I have 3 32-inch monitors, tend to have the magnifier on the alt key with the mouse to zoom. But only use it for setting up new software of the odd gnome menu stuff.

                  But every now and then you get some software that just refuses to follow the gui text hints and fails to give users any options. OS is way better than proprietary. But many developers just do not realise how little accessibility in the OS actually helps with workflow when they do not allow text customisation.

                  And what the F%$^ is it with pale grey on white text lately why the hell does anyone want that. Low contrast text and backgrounds seems to be a very annoying trend over the last 10 years.

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                  I don't have vision problems and I hate the low contrast text being shoved into everything. I've no idea how frustrating it must be if you have sight issues, but I can imagine.

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                    I have a custom theme for Cinnamon/GTK... But they recently updated it and the new default theme doesn't actually look that bad... But using the default theme will make me a sheep. ;_;

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                      I don't have vision problems and I hate the low contrast text being shoved into everything. I've no idea how frustrating it must be if you have sight issues, but I can imagine.

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                      Yep no one seems to like it. Yet it keeps getting implemented.

                      My current conspiracy. It my brothers guide dog controlling the world so she has a job.

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                        Yes that's definitely what I meant 🙄

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                        my friend's dad's brother uses arch

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                        • semperverus@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                          I think that part of the issue is that every disability is unique to some degree. No two people who are blind have blindness to the same degree. Colorblind people have several variations they could be experiencing. There are neurological disorders that range from not being able to read sentences normally because the words start to become jumbled to being unable to focus on large amounts of text. There are physical disabilities of all sorts that affect the arms and hands or even the ability to sit upright to look at the computer screen.

                          Because of that, there are two options:

                          • build a desktop environment custom-tailored to each individuals needs.

                          • build some general purpose accessibility options that can (and must) be adjusted to meet an individuals needs, which may or may not be able to meet them 100%.

                          Out of the two, the second one is far more feasible, and more possible to improve upon.

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                          Well put. But yep, that pretty much somes it up.

                          The issue is how much stuff seems to just say. Let's not bother at all. I will not the worst OS software for this has commercial names attached to it. Even when OS if some big company is responsible for funding. It's down to the community to fight to get any decent support as a default. Capitalism really dose not want to care about disabled users unless forced. Or medical level profits are attached. But lets ;leave that mess out for now.

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                            The person you replied to isn't entirely wrong, though.

                            "ricing" was a term in use in the car modding scene around the 80s and 90s especially, where among certain groups it was popular to modify Japanese import cars with kits and decals etc to mimic the look of the Japanese racing scene.

                            Some people considered these mods to be tacky and worthless because they usually tended to focus more on aesthetics than performance, purely tricking the car up visually with no other changes. Due to the Asian origin of these mods and the stereotype that Asians eat a lot.of rice, the cars were insultingly dubbed "rice burners" or " ricers" and the process of doing it "ricing"

                            It was intended 100% as an insult, basically meaning "Your car looks like shit because of all that Asian stuff you put on it"

                            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_burner

                            Like many insults of course, the insult is often "reclaimed" by the group it targets, who begin to use it between themselves in a favourable way, without any insult or negative connotation.

                            Ricing in the context of computers where people are styling, theming and "tricking out" their desktop almost certainly was borrowed from the car scene.

                            By this point there is basically no negative intent around the term at all, and especially not racist, but the place the term from was.

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                            Ignore the braindead replies, this was really informative.

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                              If someone has a script to set up HyprLand or Sway with all the necessary components and dotfiles I'm all ears because I just don't have the patience to experiment myself so I'm still on GNOME.

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                              • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                Is no one going to comment on the racial slur that is "ricing"?

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                                please take your racism elsewhere, sir

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                                  please take your racism elsewhere, sir

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                                  Exactly!

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                                    If someone has a script to set up HyprLand or Sway with all the necessary components and dotfiles I'm all ears because I just don't have the patience to experiment myself so I'm still on GNOME.

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                                    JaKooLit has a hyprland script for most distros. If you want to use sway just install from your package manager not much else you need to do. If you wanna use proprietary nvidia drivers with sway you have to install sway-nvidia as well

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                                      JaKooLit has a hyprland script for most distros. If you want to use sway just install from your package manager not much else you need to do. If you wanna use proprietary nvidia drivers with sway you have to install sway-nvidia as well

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                                      Just a warning if you're gonna use the JaKooLit the uninstall script CAN brick your DE

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                                        Honestly KDE Plasma is pretty good for ne as it is. Sure a few settings here and there but not like with custom styles and scripts and such, so far

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                                          Honestly KDE Plasma is pretty good for ne as it is. Sure a few settings here and there but not like with custom styles and scripts and such, so far

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                                          That's the thing people don't understand about ricing. It's not about features, not even about functionality. It's about aesthetics. Visually, but also how components interact and UX in general. It's like making art. It's emotional.

                                          Maybe comparable to fancy mechanical keyboards. Am I more productive with mine? No, I could have grabbed any decent keyboard and it would have been the same. However, I like how mine looks, sounds, feels. It makes me happy. It is art I have created.

                                          And that's why customize your system. Not because it's more efficient etc. Because it makes me feel goos like listening to music.

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