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Has anyone else questioned their choice of computers for running Linux?

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  • nailbar@sopuli.xyzN [email protected]

    I haven't tested it, but there seem to be a Roblox client for Linux.

    https://sober.vinegarhq.org/

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    Unfortunately it doesn't work on ARM devices right now.

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      the build quality is 2nd to none

      Good luck when the ram or disk becomes defective 😂

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      That hasn't really happened with macs even up to several years old with those parts irreplaceable, by the time that would happen the device should be replaced.

      Yes replaceable parts would be better but the ones on Macs do in fact last a very long time.

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        That hasn't really happened with macs even up to several years old with those parts irreplaceable, by the time that would happen the device should be replaced.

        Yes replaceable parts would be better but the ones on Macs do in fact last a very long time.

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        Survivor bias on a microsample. It absolutely does happen. It's the nature of electronics. Not repairable == shit build quality, disposable garbage.

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          3 years ago I needed a new computer and decided on an 16 inch M1 Macbook Pro, but did lots of overthinking about if I wanted to stick to it. I tried Asahi Linux didn't have any reasons at the time to use linux over macOS (but there was always the chance I might later), the build quality is 2nd to none, none of my Windows laptops lasted more than a few years.

          3 years later, I've really been itching to switch to Linux. Two of several reasons: because its DEs are more customizable, it has better documented accessibility APIs if you want to make keyboard navigation software. I reinstalled Asahi Linux and really tried to make it my daily driver, but the lacks of apps would require me to dual boot: Photoshop and Roblox.

          I researching again for computers closest to Macbook Pros but none of them come close to its build quality. I think it would be best for me to make my own desktop PC for linux. I don't think I'd fare well with another windows laptop brand.

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          the ultra high end computers with coreboot/libreboot from linux makers (ie system76, slimbook, tuxedo, pursim, starlabs, etc.) are the only things you're going to find with comparative build quality, but a significantly higher price tag.

          you could also get one of the high end computers from ordinary computer makers, but the build quality is going to vary a lot, even with computers from the same manufacturer.

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            I really don't understand why people bother with Adobe products. I've been using Gimp for like 20 years and it's never been lacking. I've never once thought about re-pirating Photoshop.

            Garageband on the other hand... I would kill for a linux equivalent.

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            Reaper runs on Linux.

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            • meowzedong@lemmygrad.mlM [email protected]

              You really like them? I got issued one for work and am not a fan.

              The power button on these things is in the least intuitive spot and I've had lots of weird driver issues causing hardware to fail intermittently. Specs look good on paper, but the experience has been really lacking. The moment I can swap, I think I will.

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              My personal laptop is an HP elite with a 6850h ryzen and its great. Running Ferdora KDE and works amazing. My wife's MB air M1 is a little nicer, but macOS...ugh

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                Text on GIMP absolutely blows. I have way less issues working with DDS files on PS compared to GIMP. I also used to have issues with fuzzy select but that may have been a skill issue on my part.

                (I haven't gotten a chance to work with 3.0)

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                Text is better. Not perfect. Better.

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                  I really don't understand why people bother with Adobe products. I've been using Gimp for like 20 years and it's never been lacking. I've never once thought about re-pirating Photoshop.

                  Garageband on the other hand... I would kill for a linux equivalent.

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                  I agree, but have you tried traction waveform? Closest option I think but not as polished or accessible.

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                  • nailbar@sopuli.xyzN [email protected]

                    I haven't tested it, but there seem to be a Roblox client for Linux.

                    https://sober.vinegarhq.org/

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                    Sober works great, and is the only method that still works from the ones I've tried. I think most of them stopped working because of Roblox's new Hyperion Anticheat which blocked WINE (unsure if they unblocked it at a later point as they promised, but I'd bet they didn't).

                    Side note: The creators of Sober also maintain a project called Vinegar, which allows for Roblox Studio to be installed under Linux (it used to be for both Player and Studio, until the anticheat for the Player was introduced)

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                      3 years ago I needed a new computer and decided on an 16 inch M1 Macbook Pro, but did lots of overthinking about if I wanted to stick to it. I tried Asahi Linux didn't have any reasons at the time to use linux over macOS (but there was always the chance I might later), the build quality is 2nd to none, none of my Windows laptops lasted more than a few years.

                      3 years later, I've really been itching to switch to Linux. Two of several reasons: because its DEs are more customizable, it has better documented accessibility APIs if you want to make keyboard navigation software. I reinstalled Asahi Linux and really tried to make it my daily driver, but the lacks of apps would require me to dual boot: Photoshop and Roblox.

                      I researching again for computers closest to Macbook Pros but none of them come close to its build quality. I think it would be best for me to make my own desktop PC for linux. I don't think I'd fare well with another windows laptop brand.

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                      I got quite lucky, as my first laptop when I switched to Linux, was all-AMD and I had zero AMD issues. So when I was looking for a new laptop a few months back, I stumbled upon a cheap recent Thinkpad, with great specs, all AMD, and got it ASAP. Again, zero issues. But because of the Nvidia horror stories I've heard, I knew that there would be no Nvidia on my new machine. That was non-negotiable.

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                        Unfortunately it doesn't work on ARM devices right now.

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                        Ah that's unfortunate. You're still dual booting to Arm Windows and Roblox works there?

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                          Ah that's unfortunate. You're still dual booting to Arm Windows and Roblox works there?

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                          DId u read the post? I'm on a MBP so I would dual boot to macOS (it's not possible to run windows on it rn without a VM).

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                            the ultra high end computers with coreboot/libreboot from linux makers (ie system76, slimbook, tuxedo, pursim, starlabs, etc.) are the only things you're going to find with comparative build quality, but a significantly higher price tag.

                            you could also get one of the high end computers from ordinary computer makers, but the build quality is going to vary a lot, even with computers from the same manufacturer.

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                            Lenovo sells their thinkpads with Linux too. And they're absolute tanks.

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                              Lenovo sells their thinkpads with Linux too. And they're absolute tanks.

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                              glad to hear; which ones?

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                                glad to hear; which ones?

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                                I believe all of them?

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                                  DId u read the post? I'm on a MBP so I would dual boot to macOS (it's not possible to run windows on it rn without a VM).

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                                  I forgot that part and thought Roblox was a Windows only game

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                                    3 years ago I needed a new computer and decided on an 16 inch M1 Macbook Pro, but did lots of overthinking about if I wanted to stick to it. I tried Asahi Linux didn't have any reasons at the time to use linux over macOS (but there was always the chance I might later), the build quality is 2nd to none, none of my Windows laptops lasted more than a few years.

                                    3 years later, I've really been itching to switch to Linux. Two of several reasons: because its DEs are more customizable, it has better documented accessibility APIs if you want to make keyboard navigation software. I reinstalled Asahi Linux and really tried to make it my daily driver, but the lacks of apps would require me to dual boot: Photoshop and Roblox.

                                    I researching again for computers closest to Macbook Pros but none of them come close to its build quality. I think it would be best for me to make my own desktop PC for linux. I don't think I'd fare well with another windows laptop brand.

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                                    To be fair, your issue seems more to be software based than hardware.
                                    I should warn you that even if you do get a x86 laptop, Photoshop is rather janky under Wine and Roblox could find a way to kill the Vinegar client in the future.
                                    I'd recommend you borrow a friend's machine and give it a spin, you might unfortunately not be off the dual-booting hook just yet...

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                                      3 years ago I needed a new computer and decided on an 16 inch M1 Macbook Pro, but did lots of overthinking about if I wanted to stick to it. I tried Asahi Linux didn't have any reasons at the time to use linux over macOS (but there was always the chance I might later), the build quality is 2nd to none, none of my Windows laptops lasted more than a few years.

                                      3 years later, I've really been itching to switch to Linux. Two of several reasons: because its DEs are more customizable, it has better documented accessibility APIs if you want to make keyboard navigation software. I reinstalled Asahi Linux and really tried to make it my daily driver, but the lacks of apps would require me to dual boot: Photoshop and Roblox.

                                      I researching again for computers closest to Macbook Pros but none of them come close to its build quality. I think it would be best for me to make my own desktop PC for linux. I don't think I'd fare well with another windows laptop brand.

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                                      What are people doing with their laptops, mine never break, except one time when I knocked a cup of water into one in 2005.

                                      My latest one, Asus Zenbook is already 3 years old and no issues. Has a dent in the top cover where a nurse kicked my bag when I was in hospital.

                                      My previous one, a dell Inspiron which my 9yo has had for 2 years, is 6 years old, he is not gentle.

                                      Previous to that, I had a work supplied Alienware that lasted 7 years, I traveled internationally with that one quite a few times.

                                      Not sure if I'm lucky, or more careful than average. But I hear about "build quality" issues a lot in internet posts. I've just never seen it in the wild.....

                                      Note: all ran/run various flavours of Linux.

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                                        3 years ago I needed a new computer and decided on an 16 inch M1 Macbook Pro, but did lots of overthinking about if I wanted to stick to it. I tried Asahi Linux didn't have any reasons at the time to use linux over macOS (but there was always the chance I might later), the build quality is 2nd to none, none of my Windows laptops lasted more than a few years.

                                        3 years later, I've really been itching to switch to Linux. Two of several reasons: because its DEs are more customizable, it has better documented accessibility APIs if you want to make keyboard navigation software. I reinstalled Asahi Linux and really tried to make it my daily driver, but the lacks of apps would require me to dual boot: Photoshop and Roblox.

                                        I researching again for computers closest to Macbook Pros but none of them come close to its build quality. I think it would be best for me to make my own desktop PC for linux. I don't think I'd fare well with another windows laptop brand.

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                                        I bought a Dell Inspiron circa 2014 intending to run Windows on it. I was dabbling in Linux playing with Raspberry Pis, but didn't really have designs to run Linux on my main computers. I found Windows 8.1 so unlivable that I tried out Linux Mint.

                                        That laptop just kept dying.

                                        I went around and around with Dell support for a semester about that damn laptop. I was going back to school, I bought a laptop for school, I didn't get that fucking laptop. I did an entire semester of coursework with a Kindle Fire and two Raspberry Pis (a 1B and a 2). They finally replaced the damn thing with a different model, that was missing a lot of features I had ordered. Dell is at the top of my goddamn blacklist.

                                        Anyway, the first x86 machine I ran Linux on, Linux compatibility wasn't a factor, and then I really didn't get a choice anyway because I didn't get the machine I ordered. But I've had dental surgeries that I enjoyed more than Windows 8.1.

                                        In the early days, Linux Mint needed a kernel update to support the trackpad. I'm still not convinced the dedicated GPU ever worked. I had an external docking station that was very meh. It did the job though, I actually still have it in service. It won't run Windows 11 I don't think but modern Linux runs just fine.

                                        I've since built two desktops with Linux compatibility in mind which have worked very well, and a little Lenovo thing to use as a shop tablet which...could be a lot better.

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                                          What are people doing with their laptops, mine never break, except one time when I knocked a cup of water into one in 2005.

                                          My latest one, Asus Zenbook is already 3 years old and no issues. Has a dent in the top cover where a nurse kicked my bag when I was in hospital.

                                          My previous one, a dell Inspiron which my 9yo has had for 2 years, is 6 years old, he is not gentle.

                                          Previous to that, I had a work supplied Alienware that lasted 7 years, I traveled internationally with that one quite a few times.

                                          Not sure if I'm lucky, or more careful than average. But I hear about "build quality" issues a lot in internet posts. I've just never seen it in the wild.....

                                          Note: all ran/run various flavours of Linux.

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                                          I have an Asus Zenbook I bought when Windows 10 came out 10 years ago. Dropped, dented, scratched etc. still works great, runs all programs, though not Windows 11 - so I’ll either have to use a 3rd party antivirus or change the OS to Ubuntu or something.

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