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Germany decides to leave history in the past and prepare for war

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  • L [email protected]

    So yes forgiving and all that. Here are the steps: 1 Putin removes his troops from the occupied territories
    2 he apologizes 3 maybe someone forgives him.

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    Well yeah, but what I wished was that he wouldn't have invaded in the first place, no totalitarian rulers, no people declaring wars as a dick measuring contest. No Putin in the first place. Putin will never give up and apologize, but hopefully he dies and his replacement would retreat, apologize and help Ukraine fix their country. But the chance of that happening is little to none, the next in line is probably just as bad as Putler.

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      There’s a lot of money to be made from a war.

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      Yet it costs much more, and not just money.

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      • T [email protected]

        Germany abdicated their monetary sovereignty to the EU, thus impoverishing themselves in service to international capital.

        But their punishment and exploitation is nothing compared to Greece, etc.

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        I thought Germany was the EU's economic powerhouse? No?

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          A bit concerned if an AfD take-over can't be completely ruled out.

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          The AfD may be hard right but I can't see any Germans getting in bed with Russia.

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          • T [email protected]

            It feels a bit weird being on the German side for once

            It should feel "weird" to support genocide.

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            That doesn't feel weird, it feels totally fucked up. The Dutch government is the same, maybe not as bad as Germany but still. There's a ban on supplying them with weapons, but the Dutch government is finding loopholes to do it anyway. I'm totally disgusted by it. Fuck Israel, bunch of fucking nazis. Out of everyone on this planet, especially them should know better.

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            • T [email protected]

              I think you mean white supremacy.

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              #111

              What's your problem, dude.

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              • B [email protected]

                Germany, Italy, and Japan go to war against Russia and the US. Only this time the former group is the Good Guys.

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                Only this time the former group is the Good Guys.

                Propaganda is crazy

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                  Only this time the former group is the Good Guys.

                  Propaganda is crazy

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                  #113

                  You’re not suggesting that the Axis powers were the Good Guys in WW2, are you?

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                  • B [email protected]

                    Germany, Italy, and Japan go to war against Russia and the US. Only this time the former group is the Good Guys.

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                    There are no good guys in war

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                    • lordwiggle@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                      Yet it costs much more, and not just money.

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                      USAmerica has made shit loads off war.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        Germany, Italy, and Japan go to war against Russia and the US. Only this time the former group is the Good Guys.

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                        Only this time they don’t have enough population to left to fight.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          You’re not suggesting that the Axis powers were the Good Guys in WW2, are you?

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                          Germany, italy and japan [group 1] against russia and US [group 2].
                          This time the former [group 1] are the good guys.

                          He is suggesting the axis were bad guys and now they are good.

                          Also suggesting us and russia were good guys and are not anymore.

                          To suggest the opposite, the phrase would be "this time the latter [group 2] are the good guys"

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                          • K [email protected]

                            Germany, italy and japan [group 1] against russia and US [group 2].
                            This time the former [group 1] are the good guys.

                            He is suggesting the axis were bad guys and now they are good.

                            Also suggesting us and russia were good guys and are not anymore.

                            To suggest the opposite, the phrase would be "this time the latter [group 2] are the good guys"

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                            I think you skipped over a comment in that chain.

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                            • lordwiggle@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                              It feels a bit weird being on the German side for once, also their track record of succeeding isn't that great, but I love our neighbors and I fully support them.

                              I'm just, sad the world is falling into another world war while we also just could be more kind and forgiving towards each other. It would save a lot of lives and leads of pain and agony.

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                              I mean the track record is pretty good as long as you don't just stop at the 20th century.

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                              • N [email protected]

                                I think you skipped over a comment in that chain.

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                                You're right, thanks

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  The AfD may be hard right but I can't see any Germans getting in bed with Russia.

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                                  The AfD is in bed with Russia though.

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                                    Germany's military, the Bundeswehr, recently got the all-clear for a massive increase in investment after parliament voted to exempt defence spending from strict rules on debt.

                                    The country's top general has told the BBC the cash boost is urgently needed because he believes Russian aggression won't stop at Ukraine.

                                    "We are threatened by Russia. We are threatened by Putin. We have to do whatever is needed to deter that," Gen Carsten Breuer says. He warns that Nato should be braced for a possible attack in as little as four years.

                                    "It's not about how much time I need, it's much more about how much time Putin gives us to be prepared," the defence chief says bluntly. "And the sooner we are prepared the better."

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                                    I don't see this as Germany leaving history in the past, but being smart to protect their future so the that the lessons of the past mean something.

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                                      Germany's military, the Bundeswehr, recently got the all-clear for a massive increase in investment after parliament voted to exempt defence spending from strict rules on debt.

                                      The country's top general has told the BBC the cash boost is urgently needed because he believes Russian aggression won't stop at Ukraine.

                                      "We are threatened by Russia. We are threatened by Putin. We have to do whatever is needed to deter that," Gen Carsten Breuer says. He warns that Nato should be braced for a possible attack in as little as four years.

                                      "It's not about how much time I need, it's much more about how much time Putin gives us to be prepared," the defence chief says bluntly. "And the sooner we are prepared the better."

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                                      #123

                                      Sad to read that people are ok with this.

                                      Stop contributing to rich people bullshit and step out of the system. Every other move will get us all killed.

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                                      • K [email protected]

                                        I'm not sure what else those under threat of attack should do than to try and best prepare for it. Germany isn't the first target that comes to mind but still.

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                                        Europe spend billions on war already, they are already prepared for it and practice a war every year

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steadfast_Defender_2024

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                                        • A [email protected]

                                          for the first time, Germany possibly gets to be the "good guys" in a world war! Quite a turnaround.

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                                          Remember the first persons to be harassed, assassinated, detained, sent to concentration camps were german citizen.
                                          The first who tried to resist Hitler's power, sabotage infrastructure, retrieve and send confidential informations to the allies were german citizen.
                                          A lot of germans were the good guys in ww2 (and afterwards for that matter).
                                          Whatever the conflict, let's not forget that [country X leadership] is not the same as [country x as a whole].

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