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The best thing you can do for the fediverse is just be kind

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  • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

    Interesting, ivermectin has that intense of side effects when taken orally? Or do the pseudo-science people who think it cures covid just advocate dosing it ridiculously high?

    By coincidence I actually use ivermectin topically for my rosacea, a skin condition. Being a anti-parasitic its useful fro reducing the amount of demodex mites that can aggravate rosacea in some people! I know in people it's mostly used for lice.

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    I was replying to someone that said they could use it to treat covid, which has lead to people dying. Guess I got reported by them and for some reason an admin thought it was meant as a threat?

    That’s really interesting! Did you have any problems getting your hands on it when people started buying it for covid?

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      Thats when I came here too. Sadly, spez had his yes man ban a lot of people and some bad ones broke containment because of it.

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      It’s gotten to the point here at Lemmy that I’m wanting to set up my two favorite communities. It’s just that they are so niche I can’t imagine them taking off. And my pleasure in them is of course derived from people who are FAR MORE into them than I am.

      But I can’t even go back to that cesspool Reddit now even for the good stuff. Oh well.

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        I was replying to someone that said they could use it to treat covid, which has lead to people dying. Guess I got reported by them and for some reason an admin thought it was meant as a threat?

        That’s really interesting! Did you have any problems getting your hands on it when people started buying it for covid?

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        Gotcha, that sucks, but I'm happy you made the journey over to Lemmy!

        And oh, no I only just started using it more recently. I don't think the topical kind was ever used by folks who thought it did something for covid anyway. I know there are also oral treatments for rosacea, but I'm not sure if oral antiparasitics are every used, since it's just on the skin of your face that matters.

        It also only got a generic over the counter version more recently, if I remember right, but now you can get it as a lotion that's labeled for lice, but for some people it really helps with rosacea (rosacea is one of those really complicated multiple causitive factor health issues that can manifest in serveral different ways that we still only kinda sorta partially understand. Demodex mites seem to play a role in some people but not others, there's a lot of trial and error)

        The perscription version sometimes perscribed for rosacea is called Soolantra I think, its really expensive so an over the counter generic is kindof a godsend for folks whose insurance won't cover it

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        • N [email protected]

          I disagree with your premise.

          It should be "The best thing that you can do for humanity is to be kind".

          Seriously. We're living in a time when fascism is in an upswing and at least one religious leader has publicly called empathy a sin. Kindness and empathy are rebellious acts.

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          You know what, I can respect that take. I was trying to tailor things to my audience, you're not wrong though 🙂

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            Ik a few people who lean to the right economically but aren't in favor of all this authoritarian stuff
            And they're not Nazis, you cant just generalize so broadly about what should or shouldn't be tolerated.
            Ofc if someone is being blatantly racist that shouldnt be tolerated, but economic discussion is totally fine

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            Electing republicans is in itself blatantly racist.

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              This is an example of what being nice is for the average Lemmy user

              Jesus Christ you people can't even comment without going ballistic at each other over the slightest thing

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              I wouldn’t call this the “average” Lemmy user, but there is a minority of very loud users who make it seem that way at times.

              If we want this to be a pleasant place, users need to report them, and mods & admins—who, I cannot stress enough, do this labor for free or at most peanuts—need to deal with them.

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                Electing republicans is in itself blatantly racist.

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                You do realize that there are members of marginalized groups who have been elected as republicans
                Like there's black republicans
                Is voting for them 'blatantly racist'?
                If you overuse language it loses some of its meaning

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                • N [email protected]

                  I disagree with your premise.

                  It should be "The best thing that you can do for humanity is to be kind".

                  Seriously. We're living in a time when fascism is in an upswing and at least one religious leader has publicly called empathy a sin. Kindness and empathy are rebellious acts.

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                  I can get behind the Kindness Rebellion.

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                    I don't miss the thousands of obnoxious, foul mouthed folks on FB that I routinely blocked. Haven't experienced any of that on the fediverse yet.

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                    Best part about Lemmy is it actually seems like I'm talking to a real person.

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                    • N [email protected]

                      I disagree with your premise.

                      It should be "The best thing that you can do for humanity is to be kind".

                      Seriously. We're living in a time when fascism is in an upswing and at least one religious leader has publicly called empathy a sin. Kindness and empathy are rebellious acts.

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                      Yeah, let's show them! ... how to be decent human beings by example.

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                      • C [email protected]

                        I totally agree with your message.

                        These days everyone who is not ultra-left easily gets labelled as Nazi, similarly everyone who brings up any rather left argument will be called a woke snowflake.

                        Thus, any dialog is immediately shut down. Listen, understand, exchange arguments.

                        That is what unites everyone who believes in liberal values.

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                        The last listening and understanding I had with a Trumper was over whether Haitians were eating cats and dogs in Ohio. They're not serious and I'm not going to pretend they are.

                        "Ultra-left" in America has boiled down to not hating minorities.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          This place is becoming very Reddit, if you post anything that deviates from someone’s beliefs they call you names and insult your intelligence. So many people can’t have a debate or discussion without jumping to personal attacks and hate. It’s really disheartening. I love political debate but there’s no such thing anymore, only name calling

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                          Honestly I'd expect nothing less. Almost everyone here is a Reddit refuge. We'd need a solid balance of different internet groups to not feel like Reddit. Tumblr, 4chan, Instagram, Twitch chat... for better or worse all have a very different feel from one another.

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                          • M [email protected]

                            Most people know this in some capacity, but it's not talked about enough: the shape of the platform massively shapes its culture. Every mechanism, intentional feature or not, is a factor in resulting user behavior and should be accounted for.

                            Reddit Karma was (shitty) reputation from the start, but Slashdot user IDs became one despite being mere sequential identifiers; negative user feedback such as downvotes can be harmful to communities (yet, users without an outlet may lash out in other ways e.g. reports); even how the platform communicates with users influences them; and so on.

                            I'm not saying you shouldn't be nice and incentivize others to do the same, but unless the system naturally leads to the desired behavior, you'll have a bad time in the long term because building culture by interactions doesn't scale. By the time you realize there's a shift, it's too late; interactions will compound and affect how the average user acts faster than you can try to course-correct.

                            I wish lemmy was more experimental, because by building a clone of reddit, we've copied too many of its faults. We've already got gatherings to complain about mods, and the one time devs considered changing a core component, discussion was killed by an onslaught of users. Problems with the current setup that were brought up then will likely never see that amount of people thinking about how to solve them.

                            Contrast with Mastodon, which gets crap for not being a more faithful copy of twitter, but their reasoning for not including quote-reblogs is understandable. They're now putting a lot of thought into how to add them safely. Not ignoring functionality users want, but also not ignoring how it will affect culture, that's compromise.

                            I'd like it if we could talk more about how our platforms work and, specifically, how they affect us.

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                            What if we had a tribunal instead of moderators? Actually just in the time it took me to write that out I could see it going terribly wrong LMAO

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                              A big problem is too much politics, feels like politics is always brought up even in posts where it's not the topic of discussion. Just look at this post. Then if someone disagrees with your view they'll attack you and then they'll claim they "are on the right side". People have forgotten the golden rule.

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                              That's because politics are getting to the point where people cannot ignore them any longer. Think it's bad now? Just wait till the grocery gets hit.

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                                This place is becoming very Reddit, if you post anything that deviates from someone’s beliefs they call you names and insult your intelligence. So many people can’t have a debate or discussion without jumping to personal attacks and hate. It’s really disheartening. I love political debate but there’s no such thing anymore, only name calling

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                                Report it - people jumping straight to insults are trying to shut discussion down which really isn't acceptable.

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                                  Not if you ask Republicans. You can be fresh off the boat than you can run to the nearest voting booth and steal the election

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                                  What pisses me off the most is that Republicans will say "they can come here, they should just do it illegally", as if they don't realize that process can take nearly a decade... which they probably don't.

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                                    It’s not about tolerance imo, it’s about discussion. You’d be surprised to learn their reasoning if you actually listened to it. You don’t have to agree with it.

                                    Both sides have this problem right now. Both only converse with their own. Why are republicans not changing? Well if their friends, family and everyone they talk to is a republican, they’ll never be exposed to different opinions.

                                    Don’t forget that both sides can have valid policies depending on how you view the world. I’m not taking about trump and whatever you people are doing out there in the US, but in general, conservatism is the idea that people will manage their money, rather than the government.

                                    Look at Quebec for example. A very socialist government. 2 years ago they invested a ton on money into one electric bus company. Well that company failed really bad and while they aren’t completely bankrupt, they aren’t far. It’s easy then to then see why conservatives would want to vote conservative. If their money had stayed in their pocket instead of going to the government, this wouldn’t have happened.

                                    Same thing with health. The public health system is currently clogged up so a lot of people end up having to pay to go to the private sector to actually get cured in time. So conservatives believe this whole system is a huge waste of taxpayer money. Most conservatives I know aren’t agaisnt the government helping with that, but they’d rather the government just pay the invoice after you went to a private clinic, similar to insurance in the states, rather than try to control a system that clearly isn’t working.

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                                    You’d be surprised to learn their reasoning if you actually listened to it.

                                    Turns out their reasoning a lot of the time is divinely ordained racism and sexism. Turns out thats been the reasoning behind a lot of humanity's choices.

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                                    • mynameisatticus@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                      One my favorite ways to summarize this kind of thinking is with the Bill & Ted quote "Be Excellent To Each Other, and Party On Dudes" (mostly the first half applies to this post though). The part that applies to this post, Keanu Reeves said he interprets as follows:

                                      I think that the sentiment of it is really just be the best person, the best human being you can be, and if you do that, then you can party on and live life to the fullest, but you’re gonna be safe... You’re going to be supported, you’re going to get the gift of giving, you’re going to get the gift of receiving, you’re going to get to the gift of sharing. We’re all just some humans on a rock in space, and so it’s kinda nice to kind of promote that idea of ‘give a little, get a lot’, kind of bring it in for a group hug."

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                                      I'm a member of the Church of Bill & Ted.

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                                        Ik a few people who lean to the right economically but aren't in favor of all this authoritarian stuff
                                        And they're not Nazis, you cant just generalize so broadly about what should or shouldn't be tolerated.
                                        Ofc if someone is being blatantly racist that shouldnt be tolerated, but economic discussion is totally fine

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                                        Turns out Republicans social and economic policiy is dogshit. There are three types of Republicans; power hungry sycophants, cultural chameleons that dont care but to blend in, and then the largest proportion... salt of the earth morons.

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                                          Love you guys

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                                          Group hug!

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