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Here comes a senseless world war.

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  • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

    We tried appeasement before the last World War and that doesn't work. You've got to stand up to bullies.

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    Fascism can only be defeated through the power of incredible violence. Kindness and compassion don't mean anything to fascists beyond something to exploit.

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

      We tried appeasement before the last World War and that doesn't work. You've got to stand up to bullies.

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      Death to Fascists

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      • snowpix@lemmy.caS [email protected]

        Fascism can only be defeated through the power of incredible violence. Kindness and compassion don't mean anything to fascists beyond something to exploit.

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        Death to Fascists

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        • squid_slime@lemm.eeS [email protected]

          Here comes a senseless world war. Here's hoping Russia backs down fast.

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          The world war is already here, it's just not all-out yet. This policy change isn't going to be the instigator of it.

          Regardless of Trump, the US is not the preeminent military or economic power in the world anymore. Further, the global climate is changing. As such, a global reshuffling of resources and alliances is inevitable.

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          • squid_slime@lemm.eeS [email protected]

            I'm of service age, labour (uk government) and the Tories tickled around the idea of national service and patriotism has been ramping up in the last year.

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            Oh do shut up. National service was never suggested by either party, Rishi suggested it but that was solely because he's a twit, and he was never going to be allowed to implement it.

            The military flat out told him that it was a stupid idea and they wouldn't support it. That's why he turned it into community service instead because the military part of it was never going to fly.

            If this does turn into a war it's going to be fought with missiles and very few troops so forcing the military to train up a bunch of reluctant civilians is a waste of resources. Anyone with a modicum of military thinking would be able to identify that.

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            • P [email protected]

              It's funny how, according to online commenters, every single thing the west did in support of Ukraine over the last few years would cause a new world war. We should be at WW42 by now!

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              A lot of that was down to not really having a good grasp of how powerful the Russian military was. Now that we've learnt that a lot of it was dysfunctional to the point of effectively not existing the equation has somewhat changed, and of course Russia have now had a battering.

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                Oh do shut up. National service was never suggested by either party, Rishi suggested it but that was solely because he's a twit, and he was never going to be allowed to implement it.

                The military flat out told him that it was a stupid idea and they wouldn't support it. That's why he turned it into community service instead because the military part of it was never going to fly.

                If this does turn into a war it's going to be fought with missiles and very few troops so forcing the military to train up a bunch of reluctant civilians is a waste of resources. Anyone with a modicum of military thinking would be able to identify that.

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                calm down.

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                • squid_slime@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                  calm down.

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                  Great rebuttal very detailed. Explain why I'm wrong

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                    Great rebuttal very detailed. Explain why I'm wrong

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                    We're not arguing or at least I'm not. So calm down don't be rude.

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                    • squid_slime@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                      We're not arguing or at least I'm not. So calm down don't be rude.

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                      I'm not being rude I was however pointing out that you were claiming something that was factually incorrect. The conservatives and labour have never suggested national service as a serious policy. So if you would like to provide some evidence for your claim that would be great.

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                        I'm not being rude I was however pointing out that you were claiming something that was factually incorrect. The conservatives and labour have never suggested national service as a serious policy. So if you would like to provide some evidence for your claim that would be great.

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                        You obviously lack self awareness and maybe social awareness too, so you may of not noticed the month long public back lash taking place when national service had been discussed by the Tories. It felt very real to many of us. As for labour, its a hunch and based in historical materialism, and an increased military propaganda. Large wars need soldiers, if the propaganda doesn't work then national service will.

                        War isn't for the working class, we have had no choice in the matter, and now with media spinning narratives we are manipulated into a pro war position to feed our tax's and lives into the military industrial complex this will make the greedy few a little richer.

                        So I am anti war, murdering each other is a grim idea for me.

                        The Israel Palestine war, my stance is the workers on both sides need a revolt and to overthrow the elite in their society.

                        Russia also needs to revolt and overthrow their government.

                        These two ideas won't happen though, as global superpowers won't want to harm the statuesque where a global revolution could take place.

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