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What is the most dangerous ideology in the world and what makes it dangerous?

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    Its not necessarily an ideology but all the worst ideologies have at root a lack of empathy and active methods to extinguish any trace of it. So lack of empathy or the violent suppression of it root and stem

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      TESCREAL

      It ends in either replacing humans with AGI or massive atrocities in an attempt to achieve it.

      And there are people in positions of real power who believe in this stuff and act on it.

      Andreessen posted a manifesto where he said that deliberately delaying AGI is basically mass murder and should be treated as such.

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        Religion

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        I'd say monotheism is the real problem.

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          Any religion. It makes people think of themselves as superior to other groups. It doesn't even matter which religion. They're all bad.

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            Its not necessarily an ideology but all the worst ideologies have at root a lack of empathy and active methods to extinguish any trace of it. So lack of empathy or the violent suppression of it root and stem

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            I've been warning that the average American lacks empathy for YEARS. Conservatives seemingly lack the ability to feel empathy at all, which is why Musk "warns" that empathy is dangerous.

            Look where we are now 🙃

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              Its not necessarily an ideology but all the worst ideologies have at root a lack of empathy and active methods to extinguish any trace of it. So lack of empathy or the violent suppression of it root and stem

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              Great, now we have metaideologies.

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                Ignorance.

                It's practiced by many, in alignment with arrogance. Many different flags, cloths, creeds and livelihoods depend on it.

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                I'd say it isn't an ideology, but way too many people take pride on being ignorant. so it ends up being one

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                  Great, now we have metaideologies.

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                  I go deep

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                    American Exceptionalism.

                    gestures broadly

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                      Well, Islam is definitely up there - and you only need to look at the Middle East for evidence. What makes it particularly dangerous, in my view, is the doctrine itself - especially the parts concerning treatment of women, martyrdom and hatred of infidels.

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                        Nazism seem to be the worst since it's an awful mix of nationalism, imperialism, totalitarianism, state racism, eugenics.

                        A nazi state basically invades its neighbors and genocide their inhabitants based on race, community or health condition.

                        So far, only the Third Reich applied it, leading to World War II and the Holocaust, but Japan applied some similar behavior in Asia during WWII.

                        Bonus point: it doesn't even oppose capitalism, so rich people can still greed.

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                        Nazism wasn’t particularly pro- or anti-capitalist as an ideology. Free markets, international finance, and trade weren’t embraced, and private property and businesses were only allowed as long as they aligned with the goals of the state. The government largely dictated production and would nationalize, heavily fine, or even destroy companies that didn’t serve its interests.

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                          Not an ideology but I say extremisms, of all kind. Not only religious and political, those are obvious, but also day to day habits.

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                            I'm surprised by the number of downvotes I got, not that I particularly care about them per se, but the implication that so many people are either Muslim or support Islam on Lemmy is worrying.

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                            i upvoted you even if i disagree because i like to engage opposite of my belief

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                              I got downvoted to hell last time I expressed my views about religion, but it has served me well for 29 years now (having been born in the shadow of the Vatican), so I am willing to share again:

                              I work, collaborate, spend time and even sometimes have sex with religious people, all while maintaining the idea that each one of them is akin to a dormant terrorist cell, and that given the right conditions their fundamental distancing from reason and in some cases recognition of undeserved authority can turn against me and everyone else.

                              I live a subtly tense life, but usually I am already in a safe place when shit hits the fan.

                              I also have a very wide definition of religion and of priest.

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                                If most Muslims have bad beliefs, what's the common denominator/cause?

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                                any proof that most muslims have bad belief?

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                                  any proof that most muslims have bad belief?

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                                  You literally said

                                  i will say this that majority of followers of islam have bad beliefs

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                                    Well, Islam is definitely up there - and you only need to look at the Middle East for evidence. What makes it particularly dangerous, in my view, is the doctrine itself - especially the parts concerning treatment of women, martyrdom and hatred of infidels.

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                                    As someone who escaped Islam - 100%. Unlike other religions that take original texts as interpretations Islam takes the original texts as literal words of God and is essentially stuck. It's a dead religion that exists only through force.

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                                      I think any idea is worth listening to, it's the assertion that we must inherently accept their viewpoint as valid that is outright absurd.

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                                      On the playground sure, but at some level it's show the receipts first or get fucked up to discourage gish gallop. If we don't preemptively shut it down, we're in extreme danger.

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                                        As someone who escaped Islam - 100%. Unlike other religions that take original texts as interpretations Islam takes the original texts as literal words of God and is essentially stuck. It's a dead religion that exists only through force.

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                                        Yeah, my understanding is that the interpretation of the Qur’an and Hadiths doesn’t allow for the same kind of flexibility or reform that the Bible does, for example. Of course, that doesn’t mean someone can’t practice a non-fundamentalist version of Islam - and many do - but it’s much harder to justify when you're going against what’s considered the literal word of God.

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                                          This is surely the correct answer and for the reason you give.

                                          If we're honest (and informed - a big ask, here) then we should concede that capitalism has been generally good for our species. A quadrupling of human population at the same time as a doubling in longevity - the numbers don't lie and they perfectly track the victory of capitalism as the world's economic system. Leftists don't want to hear it, but it's clearly true.

                                          But whatever this ideology did for humanity, it has been a complete disaster for all the other forms of life that we share our planet with. And that fact is going to catch up with us soon enough.

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                                          I think capitalism was a great and necessary thing to get humanity to it's current post-scarcity state. As you said, production and innovation were really aided by capitalism in the early days of man, but now that we have all the shit we need to survive, all it does is deprive those without.

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