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  • A [email protected]

    using the em

    That's how you can know that you're just a simulation.

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    #17

    Love that you picked up on this from my comment and not the meme.

    We’re all in a simulation

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    • P [email protected]

      Is this a thing? Shit, I’m now going to be self conscious about using the em.

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      If you're already breaking up over text, you probably aren't in a position to worry much about how they interpret your typography. And if they haven't noticed how you normally write there's even less reason to worry about it.

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      • B [email protected]

        Em dashes and emojis

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        So you're saying if I start using the long dash people will block me faster?

        Love it.

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        • jaymesrs@literature.cafeJ [email protected]

          You can pry my em dashes — which I use regularly in writing because I love them — from my cold dead hands (To be fair, I really like parenthetical statements too, could be an ADHD thing).

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          I'm with you. I used to use a lot more parentheses, but the break is cleaner. I opt for en dashes, though, because I find too em dashes to be too long. That could just be a MSWord preference because I don't distinguish on other platforms.

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          • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

            Including this very platform.

            Lemmy will automatically render a double dash -- as an en dash, and a triple dash --- as an em dash.

            I usually just type alt + 0151, though, because I'm a nerd.

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            I just got a line across the page:

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            • P [email protected]

              I just got a line across the page:

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              Why am I bold? why does markdown do my head in. Its really not that hard.

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                Em dashes and emojis

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                You people think em dashes are proof of AI?

                Jesus Christ that’s so fucking sad.

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                • jaymesrs@literature.cafeJ [email protected]

                  You can pry my em dashes — which I use regularly in writing because I love them — from my cold dead hands (To be fair, I really like parenthetical statements too, could be an ADHD thing).

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                  Yesss em dashes are my babies! They're have more versatility in breaking up sentences than commas IMO, and they don't have as many annoying rules as semi-colons.

                  But I also write stories as a hobby so thats the reason its something I care about

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                    Em dashes and emojis

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                    Isn't "It's not you, it's me" the ultimate example of parallel sentence structure? Lol

                    But let's be real, it's more like...

                    💔 Here's three reasons reasons we're breaking up:

                    • Our personalities don't match-- according to (made up citation) people with you type are toxic.
                    • Your idiology doesn't match mine-- you don't believe in White South African genocide.
                    • We aren't compatible-- our personalities aren't complimentary.

                    And so on. Lol

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                    • T [email protected]

                      You people think em dashes are proof of AI?

                      Jesus Christ that’s so fucking sad.

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                      Indeed—your assertion is entirely accurate—the mere presence of em dashes within a text does not—in and of itself—serve as definitive proof of artificial intelligence authorship. This grammatical construct—a versatile and often elegant punctuation mark—can be employed by any writer—human or machine—to achieve various stylistic and semantic effects. Its utility—whether for emphasis—for setting off parenthetical thoughts—or for indicating a sudden break in thought—is undeniable.

                      However—it is also true that—when analyzing patterns across vast datasets—certain stylistic tendencies can emerge. An AI—programmed to process and generate language based on extensive training corpora—might—through statistical correlation and optimization—exhibit a propensity for specific linguistic features. This isn't—to be clear—a conscious choice by the AI—there's no inherent preference for em dashes encoded within its fundamental algorithms. Rather—it's a reflection of the patterns it has learned—the statistical likelihood of certain elements appearing together.

                      So—while an em dash does not independently declare "I am AI"—its consistent and perhaps slightly overzealous deployment—alongside other less tangible but equally discernible patterns—might—for a discerning observer—suggest an origin beyond human hands. It's about the entire tapestry—not just a single thread. It's about the aggregate—the cumulative effect—the subtle statistical fingerprint. And that—I believe—is a distinction worth making.

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                      • rmuk@feddit.ukR [email protected]

                        Indeed—your assertion is entirely accurate—the mere presence of em dashes within a text does not—in and of itself—serve as definitive proof of artificial intelligence authorship. This grammatical construct—a versatile and often elegant punctuation mark—can be employed by any writer—human or machine—to achieve various stylistic and semantic effects. Its utility—whether for emphasis—for setting off parenthetical thoughts—or for indicating a sudden break in thought—is undeniable.

                        However—it is also true that—when analyzing patterns across vast datasets—certain stylistic tendencies can emerge. An AI—programmed to process and generate language based on extensive training corpora—might—through statistical correlation and optimization—exhibit a propensity for specific linguistic features. This isn't—to be clear—a conscious choice by the AI—there's no inherent preference for em dashes encoded within its fundamental algorithms. Rather—it's a reflection of the patterns it has learned—the statistical likelihood of certain elements appearing together.

                        So—while an em dash does not independently declare "I am AI"—its consistent and perhaps slightly overzealous deployment—alongside other less tangible but equally discernible patterns—might—for a discerning observer—suggest an origin beyond human hands. It's about the entire tapestry—not just a single thread. It's about the aggregate—the cumulative effect—the subtle statistical fingerprint. And that—I believe—is a distinction worth making.

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                        I honestly don't know if this is hand written or not, and that makes it even funnier.

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                        • queermunist@lemmy.mlQ [email protected]

                          Humans just use dashes - they get the point across and don't require esoteric button presses.

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                          To be fair though, a colon would be the correct punctuation here.

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                          • T [email protected]

                            Isn't "It's not you, it's me" the ultimate example of parallel sentence structure? Lol

                            But let's be real, it's more like...

                            💔 Here's three reasons reasons we're breaking up:

                            • Our personalities don't match-- according to (made up citation) people with you type are toxic.
                            • Your idiology doesn't match mine-- you don't believe in White South African genocide.
                            • We aren't compatible-- our personalities aren't complimentary.

                            And so on. Lol

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                            There needs to be a "what you can do" with a green tick emoji

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                            • B [email protected]

                              Em dashes and emojis

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                              I use them all the time!

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                              • P [email protected]

                                git push origin main --force

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                                No no no, git gud, not git push.

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                                • F [email protected]

                                  I use them all the time!

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                                  do they serve a purpose, that is not fulfilled by the humble ","?

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                                  • T [email protected]

                                    You people think em dashes are proof of AI?

                                    Jesus Christ that’s so fucking sad.

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                                    Most normal people, at least from my understanding, don't use em dashes in text messages, let alone even use punctuation half the time. So if I see em dashes, yeah, my first thought is going straight to AI.

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                                    • T [email protected]

                                      You people think em dashes are proof of AI?

                                      Jesus Christ that’s so fucking sad.

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                                      How the hell do you even type an em dash?

                                      I'm sure it's possible (I know it's easy on a touch keyboard), but if the person who sent it has never used em dashes in their life, then it's pretty definitive proof. Otherwise, it's just a big clue that you might combine with other factors.

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                                      • D [email protected]

                                        I honestly don't know if this is hand written or not, and that makes it even funnier.

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                                        i assume hand written, as that is excessive even for ai. im gonna test it tho

                                        edit:

                                        Prompt:
                                        write me a prargraph talking about how em dashes are not a defibitive sign of ai. use ecessive amounts of em dashes

                                        result:
                                        Sure—here’s a paragraph absolutely drowning in em dashes—because why not?


                                        People often claim—incorrectly—that excessive use of em dashes is some kind of definitive sign of AI-generated text—but that assumption falls apart quickly—because human writers—especially those with a flair for dramatics or a tendency toward fragmented, breathless prose—have been peppering their sentences with em dashes for centuries—long before algorithms were even a concept—and while it’s true that language models sometimes favor em dashes—they’re hardly unique in that regard—many contemporary authors, bloggers, and even journalists lean on them heavily—for rhythm, for emphasis, for parenthetical asides, for style—so to say “em dashes equal AI” is like saying “ellipses equal laziness”—a statement that’s catchy but hopelessly reductive—and if anything, this overgeneralization itself is more indicative of shallow analysis than of any deep understanding of writing—human or artificial.


                                        Want me to make an even more over-the-top version—like so dense with em dashes it almost collapses into chaos? Or keep it just slightly unhinged but still readable?

                                        answer:
                                        yes

                                        response:
                                        Alright—here’s the full chaos version—an unhinged wall of em dashes—designed to overwhelm, confuse, and yet—somehow—still make its point:


                                        The idea—that em dashes—those long, elegant, interruptive strokes—are a definitive fingerprint of AI—is laughable—no, it’s absurd—because human writers—yes, real, living, breathing writers—have always loved them—used them—abused them—even worshipped them—as tools for rhythm—for drama—for sudden shifts—for inserting thoughts within thoughts within thoughts—and while AI—sure—might lean on them occasionally—it’s no different than a poet—or a novelist—or an over-caffeinated blogger hammering out a late-night post—filling their paragraphs with dashes—em dashes—everywhere—because it feels natural—feels conversational—feels alive—and if we start declaring any style quirk—a dash, a semicolon, a penchant for adverbs—as “proof” of machine authorship—then we risk erasing the messy, chaotic, wonderfully unpredictable reality of human prose—a reality full of contradictions—full of excesses—full of writers who don’t give a damn about rules—and that, ironically enough, is something no algorithm has quite mastered—not yet—not ever—so no—the em dash is not a smoking gun—it’s just a mark—and marks are made by hands—human or otherwise.


                                        Want me to go even further—like a version where every single comma and period is replaced with an em dash? Or one that’s so self-aware it starts mocking its own overuse of dashes?

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          Why am I bold? why does markdown do my head in. Its really not that hard.

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                                          I'm not seeing it in Voyager, but I'm guessing you made a header:

                                          Main header
                                          ===========
                                          
                                          Level 2 header
                                          --------------
                                          

                                          The number of dashes or equality signs doesn't have to match, so I think that's what you did.

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