Are the Sentinelese still alive?
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I watched a documentary on tribes in Papa New Guinea..... FYI it was NOT a garden of eden. They were constantly killing each other, fighting off famine, dealt with health problems raw.
Did not look as glamorized as our western brains imagine it to be.
It sucks. So does living off what you can hunt and fish in a tundra, but there are Alaskan people for whom that's a significant portion of their lifestyle. So does chasing the buffalo and warring with your neighbors in the great plains, yet the Lakota fought devastating wars for their right to live that way. So does living deep in the Amazon, yet some people there know our world exists and choose not to join it. And so did everything that happened to the people of the North American east coast after they whethered an apocalyptic epidemic then helped out some strange looking people who showed up clearly unprepared for the brutal weather awaiting them.
We, the people of the globalized world have a responsibility to respect uncontacted people's right to remain as such, just as we must respect the right of indigenous people to choose whether or not and to what degree they live their traditional lifestyles. We've failed at this too many times.
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Your argument absolutely has merit. However the opposite is that there might be people there who are aware there's maybe way more to their small world, and want nothing more than to see it.
I care more about the latter, but mainly because that's how I would think. If we found out there's an alien superhighway passing over earth hidden from us, and they're keeping us "protected" and not allowing contact, I'd be very pissed off. I immediately would want to leave, meet the aliens, learn their ways and knowledge, etc...
Just sayin', it can go both ways. Ya never know if you don't talk to them.
Also, it seems kind of morbid and archaic in a way, keeping them protected. Not like a zoo by any means, but still. If we knew for certain they all wanted to be left alone, that'd be better.
They shoot at attempts at contact. They know we're here. They have boats.
It's more like if an alien civilization had an outpost on Mars and made a point to not come to earth or to send messages in our used frequency bands after we shot down all communication satellites and probes they sent. Just showing up would be hard, but if we wanted to join their world we could signal desires to make contact.
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Idk, let's assume they are and not check
They thought about that, then they wondered how they could introduce them to Christianity and exploit them for capitalism.
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Tell 'em to deliver some instant noodles. Bitches love instant noodles.
"... Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes ya crave it fortnightly, smart arse!" — Stuart Mackenzie
That'll learn 'em.
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The missionary could introduce bacteria for which they have no immunity. Bad idea. They've been too isolated.
Oh, you mean religion? Yeah, that motherfucker's all but impossible to remove from the host brainstems without killing them, but still. Just think of the children they brainwash and worse. It's worth the risk to excise that rapeworm from society completely. 🤌
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It looks like the last verified contact with them has been in 2018. Recently a youtuber went there and tried to get their attention, but couldn't find them.
Is it possible they're not even still around? Maybe a disease found its way onto their island and took them out. It could have even been from the last visitor in 2018.
i hope they're okay too! but maybe it's best to check up on them in a way that doesn't bother them. they deserve to be at peace
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There were 200? I understand that is exactly the lowest genetic pool limit for avoiding unsustainable inbreeding. They are likely dying off, if not already gone.
Not totally correct, the 200 number does assume that you have a mix of genetics and the average numbers of genetic diseases.
There are models that show that populations that have been isolated long enough to basically "outlive/outgrow" most genetic diseases in their population they need lower numbers (which has been the case for some indigenous communities in Australia, Papua and is likely the case for some in the Amazonas - and the Sentinelese).We don't know if that is the case,but it might be. We simply don't know.
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They pretty famously kill people who come ashore and try to make contact. They don't engage with people who are stranded other than to leave them food (according to one account of shipwrecked sailors, and I don't have the article).
These people had a rough go the first contact they had, they haven't been receptive since.
Just leave them the fuck alone.
the last who was killed, tried to proselytze them to christianity. yea because the first contact involve kidnapping thier children and giving them diseases. so the INDIAN government will not pursue any charges if the adamans kill invaders.
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The missionary could introduce bacteria for which they have no immunity. Bad idea. They've been too isolated.
they dealt with the crazy missionairy already
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There are dozens of islands in that chain and it is protected water - no one is allowed to go there without explicit permission from the Indian government. The idea is they want to be left alone. They have wanted to be left alone but the fucking British couldn't take no for an answer and constantly raped, abducted and murdered them with guns and disease for decades. Their population cratered because of the disease and now they are a tiny fraction of what they were. Just let them be. Our world has too many problems and if they can be happy living in makeshift huts with no cellphones then that's the best humanity can get.
the fucking British couldn’t take no for an answer and constantly raped, abducted and murdered them with guns and disease for decades
In our defence, they might have had some new spices for us to discover and not use!
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Why can’t we just leave the Sentinelese alone? Stop disturbing them and let them live their lives? is that really so hard?
They’ve also made it clear they don’t want our help anyway.
If they're all gone, all the expensive protection measures are not necessary anymore, so it's a very pragmatic question.
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Your argument absolutely has merit. However the opposite is that there might be people there who are aware there's maybe way more to their small world, and want nothing more than to see it.
I care more about the latter, but mainly because that's how I would think. If we found out there's an alien superhighway passing over earth hidden from us, and they're keeping us "protected" and not allowing contact, I'd be very pissed off. I immediately would want to leave, meet the aliens, learn their ways and knowledge, etc...
Just sayin', it can go both ways. Ya never know if you don't talk to them.
Also, it seems kind of morbid and archaic in a way, keeping them protected. Not like a zoo by any means, but still. If we knew for certain they all wanted to be left alone, that'd be better.
Their language is not mutually intelligible with other nearby tribes’ languages. It’s very likely that they have been isolated from all other human contact for a very long time.
Anthropologists visited them in the 90’s and even left gifts. They know we are here, they have chosen to remain isolated. The attempt to communicate has been made.
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They survived the 2004 tsunami just fine. They've probably been there for thousands of years. They are probably just fine, don't need our help, and made it clear they aren't interested in our help.
Everyone's been everywhere thousands of years. Disasters still happen.
But I agree, leave them alone because who cares.
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If they're all gone, all the expensive protection measures are not necessary anymore, so it's a very pragmatic question.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I think that they would be necessary still to respect the memory of the fiercely independent people and prevent corporate exploitation of the land.
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I think that they would be necessary still to respect the memory of the fiercely independent people and prevent corporate exploitation of the land.
Yeah!
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i hope they're okay too! but maybe it's best to check up on them in a way that doesn't bother them. they deserve to be at peace
Maybe use satellite imaging or the like.
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It looks like the last verified contact with them has been in 2018. Recently a youtuber went there and tried to get their attention, but couldn't find them.
Is it possible they're not even still around? Maybe a disease found its way onto their island and took them out. It could have even been from the last visitor in 2018.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Idk, lemme swing by and check rq
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