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Mozilla under fire for Firefox AI "bloat" that blows up CPU and drains battery

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  • moe90@feddit.nlM [email protected]
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    I was actually wondering why it felt like my Firefox was dying, possible could align with this.

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      Altogether Imbecilic

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      Arrived in the Idiocracy?

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        If AI mustt exist it should be in places where the general public cannot access nor interact with it

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        • gsus4@mander.xyzG [email protected]

          Just make it an official extension ffs...

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          I'm fine with them pulling a Pocket as long it dies in the end.

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            Well, stupid people want it and they do use it when its shoved in their face. Like how samsung updated and BLATANTLY made their peice of shit AI button TAKE OVER THR POWER BUTTON so when you try to turn off your phone little old granny gets confused that an ai agent pops up and starts recording you. Absolutely infuriating and I wish torture on whoever implemented that shit.

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            The kinds of people who want that switched to Google Chrome years ago. Only people who care more about software freedom than convenience are still using Firefox today.

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              It's still a way out but Ladybird might be the alternative going forward. However, they've stated that it's only going to support linux/mac with a windows version in the "eventually" column which makes it kinda hard to sell to people.

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              It's actually a smart move. Linux users are the most receptive audience, and the most likely to support its development.

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                RIP the old Opera before they went Chromium.

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                Fr, that was my daily driver for a while back in the day

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                  So the profit from the for-profit is passed up to the non-profit.

                  This is a really common organisational structure and not bizarre.

                  There's loads of worthy criticisms to make of mozilla but this is not one of them.

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                  Sure, whereupon the CEO alone can receive an 8 figure compensation package. That is not at all an issue to the viability of a non-profit.

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                  • jonsjava@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                    Non-profit isn't the same as not-for-profit

                    Take American Red Cross

                    They make bank on blood donations. Also, they take in way more than they put out.

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                    The red cross fucking sucks too

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                      Well, stupid people want it and they do use it when its shoved in their face. Like how samsung updated and BLATANTLY made their peice of shit AI button TAKE OVER THR POWER BUTTON so when you try to turn off your phone little old granny gets confused that an ai agent pops up and starts recording you. Absolutely infuriating and I wish torture on whoever implemented that shit.

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                      It's not a new updated it's been that way for years.

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                      • grapho@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

                        The red cross fucking sucks too

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                        I couldn't agree more

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                          Arrived in the Idiocracy?

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                          Abominable intelligence

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                            It's not a new updated it's been that way for years.

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                            Bixby was not llm based, originally, and sometimes updates will rewrite a user's custom settings. For instance, I had a galaxy on which I made pushing the power button three times turn on the flashlight. An update occurred that overrode that setting by deleting it and turned on five presses to call 911. I ended up accidently calling 911 at 3am (accompanied by a blasting alarm sound) trying not to wake someone by turning on the light.

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                              They in the last year or so added built in vertical tabs , much better hardware support for decoding video on Linux, continue to support manifest v2 and high quality ad blocking. Have increased performance and memory usage.

                              In the last 7 years performance is night and day different as is multiple process performance and switched away from unmaintainable old broken addon system.

                              They also created one of the premiere programming languages which is making in roads in the Linux kernel.

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                              All right, but apart from the vertical tabs, better video decoding, support for manifest v2, high quality adblocking, increased performance, and the useful programming language, what has Mozilla ever done for us?

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                                Abominable intelligence

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                                Absent Intelligence

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                                  It's also an example of a smaller company trying fight a mega Corp with infinite money, gained via unethical means.

                                  People are shitting on Firefox while ignoring what they are up against.

                                  I have no solution for their funding issue, what are they supposed to do? Charge for the browser or ads? There's literally no other alternative and I don't know what the solution is.

                                  What I do know is that once FF dies and chrome fully owns the web we are well and truly fucked.

                                  Honesty it might already be too late.

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                                  They could try asking for donations, while getting rid of the massive drains on their budget.

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                                    That is disingenuous.

                                    People underestimate the cost of building a fucking browser, it's not the equivalent of maintaining a array sort app on fucking github.

                                    Some random dude promising to "donate from time to time" is not a valid business model.

                                    I wish they'd strip down and just focus on the browser, but fund it HOW? Ads? Subscription?

                                    The reason a lot of companies are doing AI shit is essentially RD shooting in the dark, hoping something will pan out.

                                    You have to do this if you are a tech company and want to survive in the future.

                                    It's fun to meme on ai and but that shit is coming and pretending it doesn't exist or has no value simply isn't true.

                                    So I ask everyone again, what business model exists for a software company to make money without ads or charging a monthly subscription.

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                                    Some random dude promising to "donate from time to time" is not a valid business model.

                                    A lot of people donating, while not spending that money on dumb projects, and worse exectutives is a valid business model. Mozilla just doesn't want to do that, because they care more about their executives than they care about Firefox.

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                                      Calling whatever you like "profit" cant really be rebutted, it's subjective semantics.

                                      Yes CEOs are paid lots of money. Why would mozilla choose to over pay staff?

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                                      Are you really asking why would the people at the top of an organization choose to overpay themselves?

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                                      • the_decryptor@aussie.zoneT [email protected]

                                        a nonprofit owned by a for profit company

                                        It's the other way around, the foundation owns the corporation.

                                        Still feels like the corporation is the one making decisions though.

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                                        i think they may be referencing the fact that huge amounts of money have been given to them by google?

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                                          That's basically what librewolf, waterfox, and a whole bunch of others are. In the same way manjaro and endeavor etc. are opinionated arch installs with spackling, those browsers are opinionated settings-already-selected versions of firefox.

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                                          Just what I needed, ty

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