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    It's important to remember that there's a lot of money being put into A.I. and therefore a lot of propaganda about it.
    This happened with a lot of shitty new tech, and A.I. is one of the biggest examples of this I've known about.
    All I can write is that, if you know what kind of tech you want and it's satisfactory, just stick to that. That's what I do.
    Don't let ads get to you.

    First post on a lemmy server, by the way. Hello!

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    It's like Valorant, but much bigger and even worse.

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    • J [email protected]

      It did help me make a basic script and add it to task scheduler so it runs and fixes my broken WiFi card so I don't have to manually do it. (or better said, helped me avoid asking arrogant people that feel smug when I tell them I haven't opened a command prompt in ten years)

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      did you not read the damn post?

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      • povoq@slrpnk.netP [email protected]

        The worst is in the workplace. When people routinely tell me they looked something up with AI, I now have to assume that I can't trust what they say anylonger because there is a high chance they are just repeating some AI halucination. It is really a sad state of affairs.

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        I've started seeing large AI generated pull requests in my coding job. Of course I have to review them, and the "author" doesn't even warn me it's from an LLM. It's just allowing bad coders to write bad code faster.

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        • M [email protected]

          I must be one of the few reaming people that have never, and will never- type a sentence into an AI prompt.

          I despise that garbage.

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          I haven't used it willingly ever. Especially after the one time copilot told me an acre is 4.5 football fields in area. I didn't ask it, the response was just presented at the top of my results. I'm a fucking farmer for God sake. I know that's very very wrong without thinking. I just wanted the square footage and was too lazy to use my calculator. Never again.

          That being said, I do on occasion solicit my friend who has a subscription, just to request and have him send me a very specific image request and have him text it to me, so I can repost it.

          Anything for the memes. Literally anything.

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          • C [email protected]

            Do you also check if they listen to Joe Rogan? Fox news? Nobody can be trusted. AI isn't the problem, it's that it was trained on human data -- of which people are an unreliable source of information.

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            To take an older example there are smaller image recognition models that were trained on correct data to differentiate between dogs and blueberry muffin but obviously still made mistakes on the test data set.

            AI does not become perfect if its data is.

            Humans do make mistakes, make stuff up, and spread false information. However they generally make considerably less stuff up than AI currently does (unless told to).

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            • J [email protected]

              I haven't used it willingly ever. Especially after the one time copilot told me an acre is 4.5 football fields in area. I didn't ask it, the response was just presented at the top of my results. I'm a fucking farmer for God sake. I know that's very very wrong without thinking. I just wanted the square footage and was too lazy to use my calculator. Never again.

              That being said, I do on occasion solicit my friend who has a subscription, just to request and have him send me a very specific image request and have him text it to me, so I can repost it.

              Anything for the memes. Literally anything.

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              TIL one football field is roughly the size of an acre. (Roughly.)

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              • C [email protected]

                I think they’re saying that the kind of people who take LLM generated content as fact are the kind of people who don’t know how to look up information in the first place. Blaming the LLM for it is like blaming a search engine for showing bad results.

                Of course LLMs make stuff up, they are machines that make stuff up.

                Sort of an aside, but doctors, lawyers, judges and researchers make shit up all the time. A professional designation doesn't make someone infallible or even smart. People should question everything they read, regardless of the source.

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                Blaming the LLM for it is like blaming a search engine for showing bad results.

                Except we give it the glorifying title "AI". It's supposed to be far better than a search engine, otherwise why not stick with a search engine (that uses a tiny fraction of the power)?

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                  Blaming the LLM for it is like blaming a search engine for showing bad results.

                  Except we give it the glorifying title "AI". It's supposed to be far better than a search engine, otherwise why not stick with a search engine (that uses a tiny fraction of the power)?

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                  I don't know what point you're arguing. I didn't call it AI and even if I did, I don't know any definition of AI that includes infallibility. I didn't claim it's better than a search engine, either. Even if I did, "Better" does not equal "Always correct."

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                  • F [email protected]

                    Not just you. Ai is making people dumber. I am frequently correcting the mistakes of my colleagues that use.

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                    My attitude to all of this is I've been told by management to use it so I will. If it makes mistakes it's not my fault and now I'm free to watch old Stargate episodes. We're not doing rocket surgery or anything so who cares.

                    At some point they'll realise that the AI is not producing decent output and then they'll shut up about it. Much easier they come to that realisation themselves than me argue with them about it.

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                    • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                      TIL one football field is roughly the size of an acre. (Roughly.)

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                      I haven't really played football in years so they must have changed the rules. Because that is one big ball.

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                      • E [email protected]

                        My attitude to all of this is I've been told by management to use it so I will. If it makes mistakes it's not my fault and now I'm free to watch old Stargate episodes. We're not doing rocket surgery or anything so who cares.

                        At some point they'll realise that the AI is not producing decent output and then they'll shut up about it. Much easier they come to that realisation themselves than me argue with them about it.

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                        Luckily no one is pushing me to use Ai in any form at this time.

                        For folks in your position, I fear that they will first go through a round of layoffs to get rid of the people who are clearly using it "wrong" because Top Management can't have made a mistake before they pivot and drop it.

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                        • M [email protected]

                          It's important to remember that there's a lot of money being put into A.I. and therefore a lot of propaganda about it.
                          This happened with a lot of shitty new tech, and A.I. is one of the biggest examples of this I've known about.
                          All I can write is that, if you know what kind of tech you want and it's satisfactory, just stick to that. That's what I do.
                          Don't let ads get to you.

                          First post on a lemmy server, by the way. Hello!

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                          Hello and welcome!)
                          Also, thank you for good advice!

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                            I feel this

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                            • H [email protected]

                              Probably right, but to be fair it’s “been” quantum computing since the 90’s.

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                              True, but the grifter crowd has the internet as a medium and is larger and more empowered than ever

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                              • fryd@sh.itjust.worksF [email protected]

                                I can see that you’re trying to mirror my comment, I just fail to see the point you’re trying to make. Cool, you know people who have a somewhat legitimate use for the unprofitable, unreliable technology that’s built on rampant theft and consumes obscene amounts of power and water. And?

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                                We already have the GPUs, they use a few hundred watts sporadically, definitely less than gaming. They use no water, they are air cooled and we drink more coffee than water ourselves. Do you just copy paste blindly arguments form the internet or do you ever stop and think from time to time?

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                                  It did help me make a basic script and add it to task scheduler so it runs and fixes my broken WiFi card so I don't have to manually do it. (or better said, helped me avoid asking arrogant people that feel smug when I tell them I haven't opened a command prompt in ten years)

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                                  Yeah it definitely has its uses. OP wasn't saying it's never useful, I think you may have missed the forest for the trees.

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    It's more about them feeding it into an LLM which then decides to incorporate it in an answer to some random person.

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                                    Yeah but LLMs don't train off of data automatically, you need a separate dedicated process for that, it won't happen from just using them. In that sense, companies can still use your data to train them in the background, even if you aren't directly using an LLM, or they can not train them even when you are using them. I guess in the latter case there is a bigger incentive for them to train them than otherwise, but to me it seems basically the same thing privacy wise.

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                                      We already have the GPUs, they use a few hundred watts sporadically, definitely less than gaming. They use no water, they are air cooled and we drink more coffee than water ourselves. Do you just copy paste blindly arguments form the internet or do you ever stop and think from time to time?

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                                      And suddenly we’re talking about locally hosted models I guess? You’re just contorting your argument and cherry picking the single part of the deeply problematic technology you could possibly defend. It’s disingenuous and you’re just poorly covering it up with condescension.

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                                        Luckily no one is pushing me to use Ai in any form at this time.

                                        For folks in your position, I fear that they will first go through a round of layoffs to get rid of the people who are clearly using it "wrong" because Top Management can't have made a mistake before they pivot and drop it.

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                                        Yeah that is a risk, then again if they're forcing their employees to use AI they're probably not far off firing everyone anyway so I don't see that it makes a huge amount of difference for my position.

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                                          I feel this

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                                          Yeah. But then being a vertibrate is always lonely and kinda rough.

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