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    Weed doesn't make you a bigoted piece of shit

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    more and more evidence coming out that weed actually damages the brain, overtime, besides other health effects if smoked excessively.

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      Me personally? I wouldn't care either way. I've seen a woman on the street fingering the ass of a muslim dude before, and just sorta walked by. But I don't have kids. I imagine if I had kids, I'd be opposed to public ass-blasting.

      A parent that I work with has had awkward conversations with his kids, after they came to Canada and saw guys kissing / making out in public. I can appreciate that such PDAs can prompt similar 'awkward' conversations, but also that they're much less 'common' than encountering them as part of a big budget movie -- and encountering them in public is often an easier way for parents to broach the subject. Kids noticing that stuff is unavoidable as they mature, but having it forced to the front by media / schools is questionable, and I can appreciate the parents' concerns on that front.

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      I don't think replying to you is helpful but I stuck my foot in this so I might as well try.

      If you were actually being fair and equal to everyone then your stance would be, "NO child should be exposed to ANY type of relationship dynamic". Or only those that you feel are "positive" examples (highlighting your stance that any lgbtq+ partnership is inherently negative and damaging to a child's development).

      I think the problem of how you perceive people responding to you is the misclassification or simple lack of knowledge in history of what you call "non-standard partners". Nature is not familiar with "standard partners", Sappho is an interesting read from 600 BC (and a great meme community), Ancient Greece felt differently than you do today about "traditional relationships",

      ::: spoiler Ancient Greece excerpt

      In the cultures of the ancient world, there was no need for designations such as LGBTQ+ because there was no difference noted between what is now defined as "homosexual" and "heterosexual" relationships. There was no "us" and "them" dichotomy to encourage such labels; there was only "us" and whoever one chose to love was one’s own business. (link)

      :::

      For a more modern take, Karl Heinrich Ulrichs from 1860's which they consider the first modern gay right's movement advocate. Astonishingly about the same time the US abolished slavery.

      Currently the population consists of about 23% of newer generations proudly stating they are lgbtq+, I suspect largely in part because of the de-stigmatizing of such relationships that religious fervor and right-wing ideology demonized because of the "traditional values" (which is horse shit because traditional is subjective).

      tl;dr: Kids are curious and actually have feelings they are developing, some of which is attraction to a class-mate in elementary school (wtf is valentines day then?). If they don't see any representation and people respond like you do to "non-standard" relationships, they develop the same core concepts as you've come to embolden making them feel ashamed and causing more confusion then just a simple conversation they should have with an adult.

      The fact that they can be exposed in public but should not be in media is just a weird stance to take (especially when parents can dictate what a child consumes or at least should be proactive in that space). We're also completely negating the fact that less people are exposed to the overall public and moreso only interact in small circles online especially with adolescents.

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        movie literally talks of time distortions

        kids would be confused about a kiss

        Sure

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          Papa snoop took his grandchild to the cinema to nake him shut the fuck up, and instead, it asks questions!

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            I don't think replying to you is helpful but I stuck my foot in this so I might as well try.

            If you were actually being fair and equal to everyone then your stance would be, "NO child should be exposed to ANY type of relationship dynamic". Or only those that you feel are "positive" examples (highlighting your stance that any lgbtq+ partnership is inherently negative and damaging to a child's development).

            I think the problem of how you perceive people responding to you is the misclassification or simple lack of knowledge in history of what you call "non-standard partners". Nature is not familiar with "standard partners", Sappho is an interesting read from 600 BC (and a great meme community), Ancient Greece felt differently than you do today about "traditional relationships",

            ::: spoiler Ancient Greece excerpt

            In the cultures of the ancient world, there was no need for designations such as LGBTQ+ because there was no difference noted between what is now defined as "homosexual" and "heterosexual" relationships. There was no "us" and "them" dichotomy to encourage such labels; there was only "us" and whoever one chose to love was one’s own business. (link)

            :::

            For a more modern take, Karl Heinrich Ulrichs from 1860's which they consider the first modern gay right's movement advocate. Astonishingly about the same time the US abolished slavery.

            Currently the population consists of about 23% of newer generations proudly stating they are lgbtq+, I suspect largely in part because of the de-stigmatizing of such relationships that religious fervor and right-wing ideology demonized because of the "traditional values" (which is horse shit because traditional is subjective).

            tl;dr: Kids are curious and actually have feelings they are developing, some of which is attraction to a class-mate in elementary school (wtf is valentines day then?). If they don't see any representation and people respond like you do to "non-standard" relationships, they develop the same core concepts as you've come to embolden making them feel ashamed and causing more confusion then just a simple conversation they should have with an adult.

            The fact that they can be exposed in public but should not be in media is just a weird stance to take (especially when parents can dictate what a child consumes or at least should be proactive in that space). We're also completely negating the fact that less people are exposed to the overall public and moreso only interact in small circles online especially with adolescents.

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            I know about ancient greece, and as I've said I don't care personally what people do / who they love. Don't assume just because I consider homosexual behaviour to be abnormal, that I'm somehow opposed to it / think it inherently "wrong" or anything. I also don't have a personal issue with it in movies, particularly more adult themed movies -- though I do think it's massively over-represented at this point, as almost every movie/show I see has heavy lgbtq+ themes wedged in haphazardly, often to the detriment of the plot.

            Younger generations claiming to be lgbtq+, or being on the gender spectrum, doesn't really impact my view, I admit. First, it's still a minority, which makes it abnormal. Grouping all abnormal types together also inflates the perspective of how common it is for any one subset. Young people are also more inclined to be affected by perceptions of benefits / "going along with what's approved in media". Even the stats on that site generally support this, noting that the breakdown between men/women is hugely lopsided amongst Gen Z, and with the bulk of the change seemingly being women identifying as bisexual. That fits quite a bit with how its presented in media -- so I'd still question whether it's kids being 'genuine' in their experiences/feelings, or if it's media pushing certain messages and kids reacting to those messages. Media can clearly influence peoples world views / perspectives, at times in ways that aren't authentic -- we're all keen to recognise as such when we talk about the negative impact of fox news -- so it'd seem strange to pretend like it can't have a similar reality-distorting effect in this area, given the level of over-representation of lgbtq+ themes. Particularly bi-sexual women, as media likes to treat women as sex objects desired by "everyone", and wedge in some lesbian sex scenes to boot. Almost every series/movie has lgbtq+ stuff in it these days, which is one reason Snoop is uncomfortable taking kids to movies -- it's gotten pretty rare to see a same-race healthy relationship straight couple in media.

            To approach it from a slightly different angle: it's like trying to find non-emo edgelord male characters in anime (which, in its space, feeds the indoctrination of alpha male sorts) -- or the negative male stereo-types pushed by people like Tate. If we accept/recognise that certain media representations can "make" young people more extreme in that sort of space, then I don't think it's at all unreasonable to say that media can "make" young people more gender fluid on the flip side. Part of being young, is lacking critical objectivity.

            Also, in terms of the polling and benefits, hell, I personally identify as "other" on all government polls, because "other" gets preferential treatment/hiring options, while "male" gets rejection letters. That isn't an authentic response, but it's a necessary response to get past certain hiring criteria -- I've literally had rejection letters stating "you're not part of an equity group" in the past, when I answered male (in Canada, literally the reason the federal government rejected my application). Workplaces have no business blocking people from employment due to their preference, even when it comes to us CIS folks.

            As for seeing things in public -- a kid could see a horrific car accident by chance, corpses everywhere. That doesn't mean it's appropriate to show a 6 year old graphic death scenes. Or to use a less extreme example, and a fairly common one, they could walk in on their parents fucking -- it still wouldn't be appropriate for a movie for kids to have a bunch of sex scenes. Content involving adult stuff should have an adult rating, even if "some" kids may encounter those things earlier in life by happenstance.

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              That's fucking racist, dude.

              You can dig on him for his words and his choices, and the things that he has control over, all you want, I'll be completely and totally behind you, having your right to an opinion.

              You can't say shit like that. That's not fucking cool.

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              Hey, honest question.

              This comes from this video where Snoop made up that word to insult people who performed at Donald Trump's inauguration.

              Is it a racially charged word? I thought it was just a made word up by him. If it is, that's my mistake and I apologize. I didn't mean any harm to any community.

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                Oh no, I had to talk to my kids. The horror.

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                    It's an abnormal relationship type with a dom and a sub. Just like homosexual relationships are abnormal relationships with non standard partners involved. One is just more abnormal than the other. Both raise questions about sex, as was the point with Snoops clip -- his kid explicitly asked about sex stuff, because he encountered the abnormal couple on screen. Snoop wasn't comfortable discussing that with his grandkid in a movie theatre, and felt put out. That's a valid response, no matter how many lgbtq+ people scream in nonsensical rage.

                    You may not like the point, but it doesn't make it invalid. Just like you may not like hetero people's reaction to homosexual content in kids media, but that doesn't make their reactions "wrong".

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                    It's incredibly invalid.

                    If a 5 year old asks me about war I don't need to describe in detail violently murdering people or give an hour lecture about military strategy or make idiotic analogies to more complicated topics. I can choose an age appropriate response that explains it good enough for their age. It's really that simple.

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                      MF was convincted for murder, but a 5 year old asking questions is too much?

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                      Who was convicted for murder?

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                        I've known quite a few older people who were lifetime pot smokers. They all ended up just a little fucked in the head. So much so I quit. Its a myth that pot makes you creative. I figured out how to be chill without it and the ideas I have now really work. While some people I know in my age group who still lean into it are not able to figure out or see the simplest of solutions. Its noticeable and I wish there was some way to study the long term cognitive decline of lifetime smokers. Dude can't explain how love is love. That its a personal choice everyone gets to make. Sounds like he doesn't want those kids to be free but be some version he has to approve of.

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                          Hey, honest question.

                          This comes from this video where Snoop made up that word to insult people who performed at Donald Trump's inauguration.

                          Is it a racially charged word? I thought it was just a made word up by him. If it is, that's my mistake and I apologize. I didn't mean any harm to any community.

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                          https://www.etymonline.com/word/******

                          I know that word because I've heard it said many a time. I grew up in the racist south and apparently the word is well over a hundred years old, so when Snoop used it against other people, he was trying to say like a worse word than the n word to describe those people.

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                            I've known quite a few older people who were lifetime pot smokers. They all ended up just a little fucked in the head. So much so I quit. Its a myth that pot makes you creative. I figured out how to be chill without it and the ideas I have now really work. While some people I know in my age group who still lean into it are not able to figure out or see the simplest of solutions. Its noticeable and I wish there was some way to study the long term cognitive decline of lifetime smokers. Dude can't explain how love is love. That its a personal choice everyone gets to make. Sounds like he doesn't want those kids to be free but be some version he has to approve of.

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                            Yup, same. I know some people that really seem to become less sharp with prolonged pot use. There is no free lunch, all drugs, when taken regularly, fuck you up. But, at the end we all die, so I'm going to enjoy a beer and a smoke every now and then. Just don't make it a habit, and when in any doubt, do less or quit.

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                              Yup, same. I know some people that really seem to become less sharp with prolonged pot use. There is no free lunch, all drugs, when taken regularly, fuck you up. But, at the end we all die, so I'm going to enjoy a beer and a smoke every now and then. Just don't make it a habit, and when in any doubt, do less or quit.

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                              Yeah, I've smoked a few times in the last five years. Less then five times. Usually in a social situation. Its the wake and bake dailies that will harm you. I really don't miss it. I was self medicating past abuses and as soon as I confronted them I didn't need it anymore.

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                                Yeah, I've smoked a few times in the last five years. Less then five times. Usually in a social situation. Its the wake and bake dailies that will harm you. I really don't miss it. I was self medicating past abuses and as soon as I confronted them I didn't need it anymore.

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                                Ouch. Yeah, the self-medication is a big problem in our society. Congrats to working your way out of it!

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                                  I hate this argument. "You people can't exist in public because I might have to talk to my stupid kids".

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                                  It's not a question of being visible in public, it's just a question of proportion. Hollywood seems to need gays and lesbians in every movie now. Is it marketing to attract "minorities" ?

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                                    “They probably adopted.” Not that hard.

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                                    even if you're a conservative shithead and don't even want to talk about that, how hard is it to say, "it's just a cartoon sweety"?

                                    what is this bitch-ass complaint, from people who i guarantee don't feel like they have to explain squat to their kids... they suddenly become a super liberal parents like "i can't lie to my kids, and i have to truthfully address every question" like no you don't bitch.

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                                      Several. Do a quick web search begore you ask shit like that for easily verifiable publiv claims.

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                                      Did you not see the edit to my comment outhouseperilous ?

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                                        https://www.etymonline.com/word/******

                                        I know that word because I've heard it said many a time. I grew up in the racist south and apparently the word is well over a hundred years old, so when Snoop used it against other people, he was trying to say like a worse word than the n word to describe those people.

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                                        Ooooof.

                                        I made a huge mistake. I was completely ignorant of that fact. I'm a dumbass.

                                        They were right to call me out on it.

                                        I apologize to everyone.

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                                          It's not a question of being visible in public, it's just a question of proportion. Hollywood seems to need gays and lesbians in every movie now. Is it marketing to attract "minorities" ?

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                                          There are straight people in literally every movie. Do you have an issue with that?

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