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Does anyone actually take into account "IP Rating"/"Water Resistance" when they buy phones?

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    What's your one option btw?

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    XCover 6 Pro

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      Yes. Have exclusively used rugged phones for past ~10 years. Mostly Cat (RIP), now Doogee S96. My phone is exposed to a lot of particulate matter, metal fragments, sawdust, etc. It needs to withstand fall damage on hard surfaces. The IP rating indicates it's resistance to anything entering the case, including water.

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        Yes. I use my phone in rain/snow and boats all the time plus it's nice to be able to use it in sauna also

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        I feel like that defeats the purpose of sauna a bit...

        But anyway, I thought heat rating was a different metric entirely?

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          Well, it already has IP68 anyways so you got that covered 😄

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            Yeaah, but what good is washing something without soap? (Germs aren't gonna come off)

            Nowadays I just try to use alcohol wipes instead

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              Yes. I use my phone in rain/snow and boats all the time plus it's nice to be able to use it in sauna also

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              Sauna? Bruh you're really pushing the limits of the water resistance, its water resistant, not water + heat resistant (rubber gaskets are gonna fall apart with the steamy hot air constantly)

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                All my phones so far worked in very light rain to some extent. A single drop of water won't make it unusable.

                The IP rating isn't meant for making the device usable in all conditions. It was meant for the device to survive those conditions.

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                I get a drop of sweat on a digitizer touchscreen, and my day is fucked, and my paycheck is fucked.

                Phones aren't meant to be waterproof or even water resistant.

                Go ahead, drop a few drops of water on your screen. It won't work right...

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                  Yeah, ok, so... don't wash your phone with a spray nozzle regardless, is going to be my advice. Wet tissue? Sure. Under the tap with light soap? If desperate. Just... don't hose your phone down, what are you doing.

                  But let's be clear, IP ratings are certifications. You can still be water resistant under the conditions of the test and not have the certification for it.

                  It makes perfect sense for... you know, people not using water jets on their electronics, to get just the certification that covers most real use cases (in this case the one that covers rain, accidental pool falls and the occasional toilet dunk) and communicate that. It doesn't mean your phone won't survive a bartop spray nozzle wash (which, again, you shouldn't be doing) or even that it wouldn't have gotten the IPx5/6 cert if the manufacturer had gone through the process, but it's extra cost that will only muddle how you communicate with your user.

                  Are people not clear that IPx5/6 and IPx7/8 aren't on a linear scale? They are not. That's on the IEC's poor formatting of the ratings. Are manufacturers leaning on the implicit user assumption that the higher number just means more protection? Sure.

                  Is it relevant/annoying/effectively problematic in real use? Not unless you're using a waterjet cutter to rinse ketchup off your phone. Which, again, don't do that, that's not a good thing to do.

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                    Yes. I'm not too demanding about it but I want my phone to survive being soaked in rain or a washing with clean water.

                    Bonus points if I can take it into the sea, but I never had a phone for which I was confident it could survive salty water.

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                      Well, it already has IP68 anyways so you got that covered 😄

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                      Allegedly so. Looking at that rubber seal behind the flimsy back cover doesn't inspire much confidence however so I'll keep treating it as if that rating doesn't exist.

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                        Not me. I always used the phone in the rain if i needed to. It's a nice plusy, but I woundnt trust the ip rating enough to carry the phone in wet swimming trunks after swimming.

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                          XCover 6 Pro

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                          What’s the requirement that only this phone covers?.. If it’s not being more “resistant”? Its whole point seems to be to be rugged.

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                            What’s the requirement that only this phone covers?.. If it’s not being more “resistant”? Its whole point seems to be to be rugged.

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                            Has removable battery and a headphone jack.

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                              Carrier pigeons.

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                              They also don't work underwater.

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                                I feel like that defeats the purpose of sauna a bit...

                                But anyway, I thought heat rating was a different metric entirely?

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                                Sauna is a place where you either chat with other people or sit with your thoughts. It's blasphemy to bring your phone in there.

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                                  No, I grew up with phones (and electronics in general) not being water tight or resistant so I sort of still have the mindset of not taking my phone near lakes/bathtubs and putting it away when it's raining.

                                  Haven't really had a problem with water damage in all the years of owning phones. Most of my phones were not water tight/resistant because they were older Nokias, had a replaced battery or are Fairphones.

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                                    I did back in the day. Now everything is IP67 or whatever's the most common one. It's honestly a crapshoot, my Xperia Z3 died from just being in the shower room while I showered, nowhere near the water but vaguely steamy in there.

                                    I accidentally flushed, yes - flushed my Pixel 1 XL down the toilet and it was fine (it swam up).

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                                      Only that there is one. I don’t expect my phone to get wet but I do want it to survive everyday life.

                                      Supposedly the Apple Watch is fine to go swimming with. I’m happy to see that feature, as confidence I can wash my hands without ruining my watch

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                                        Yes. I've never had a bad liquid incident, but I don't want my phone to be one spilled drink or dropped-into-toilet-or-puddle away from being fried.

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                                          I don’t care for the number and just go by what they say it will endure, but absolutely. As the owner of a toddler it’s saved the day on as number of occasions.

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                                          I want stories please

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