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Do you comsume any tobacco products (e.g. "smoking") or alcoholic beverages? Why or why not?

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    Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

    I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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    No and no, because I'm Muslim and because both are poison that will literally kill you.

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    • D [email protected]

      Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

      I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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      I drink since I'm 12, at least once a week (not quite till blackout ...) because, it's the only legal drug I can take....
      Except for Weird stuff from pharmacies, but that's too expensive, and you only trip for 4 hours

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      • D [email protected]

        Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

        I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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        Smoking no, never. I was a heavy drinker in my teens and 20s, gave that up because I was getting fat (I'm vain, deal with it!). At that time, I started taking MDMA and speed. It was the late 90s, so it was a pretty standard for the rave and alternative scenes at the time. Gave that up when I got Menieres disease in my early 40s. Now I have one drink once or twice a month, but mostly drink plain old water.

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        • D [email protected]

          Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

          I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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          I've never smoked. My mom died of lung cancer when I was 14, that was a clear message.

          I have consumed alcohol for most of my adult life. At present, I have 3 beers a week on average, wine perhaps a couple of times a year (usually holidays), and other drinks every couple of years. I drank more and more often in the past but it's been less and less over time.

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          • D [email protected]

            Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

            I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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            I'm chronically ill so I can't smoke or drink. But I used to smoke marijuana and drink alcohol. At least at parties or sometimes a glass of wine with dinner. I sometimes miss it but not too much.

            Friend of mine is basically like you. Never smoked, never drank except for half a glass of champagne on his 18th birthday. The closest he ever came to real drug use was when we were playing board games with friends in a closed room and three joints were constantly circling the table. At one point he remarked feeling a bit woozy.

            But people mostly accept his choice. And even in our most egregious party phases he was constantly one of the last people to leave a party. So it didn't exclude him socially or so.

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            • D [email protected]

              Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

              I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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              I drink plenty of booze. My go to is Whiskey and diet coke.

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                No and no, because I'm Muslim and because both are poison that will literally kill you.

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                I understand if you don't for religious reasons but both only kill you if done to excess. Yes, they're not healthy things to do but in moderation there's often little harm done. Too much water will literally kill you. My personal view is that we're all gonna die anyway, the world's an absolute mess so I might aswell enjoy the bits I can

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                • D [email protected]

                  Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                  I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                  Tried it, didn’t like it.

                  Cigarettes are gross, and alcohol leaves me with a headache and upset stomach.

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                  • D [email protected]

                    Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                    I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                    Never smoked (although I probably got a fair bit second hand from my dad, back in the day)

                    Don't do crazy drinking, but do enjoy a cold pint or two now and then, and maybe a few more if I'm out at a gig or something. And in the summer I'll often have some bottles chilling in the fridge.

                    Also enjoy an occasional whisky - single malt, nice and smoky, preferably.

                    Don't usually have other spirits, maybe vodka or rum in a cocktail, but pretty rarely tbh.

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                      I understand if you don't for religious reasons but both only kill you if done to excess. Yes, they're not healthy things to do but in moderation there's often little harm done. Too much water will literally kill you. My personal view is that we're all gonna die anyway, the world's an absolute mess so I might aswell enjoy the bits I can

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                      but both only kill you if done to excess.

                      You'd think so but nope! According to WHO (and every other relevant organization), relevant risks increase from the first drop of alcohol, so while smaller amounts are less dangerous even moderate consumption will still literally kill you. Technically moderate consumption has some minor health benefits, but those are canceled out by the risks.

                      while the greatest risks are seen with heavy long-term use, even low alcohol consumption (defined as less than one drink per day) or moderate consumption (up to two drinks per day for men, and one drink per day for women because they absorb and metabolize it differently) can increase cancer risk. Among women, light drinkers have a four percent increased risk of[breast cancer, while moderate drinkers have a 23 percent increased risk of the disease.

                      Apparently alcohol kills about 170k+ people a year and causes millions of ER visits in America alone through various mechanisms (this data is an underestimate).

                      PS: I chose alcohol because it's the more controversial of the two, but everything I said here also applies to smoking.

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                      • D [email protected]

                        Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                        I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                        I use nicotine to self Medicare ADHD..unflavored nicotine pouches.

                        I like beer, malt liquor, alcopops, bourbon, and gin, too. why? uh.... monkey brain?

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                        • D [email protected]

                          Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                          I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                          I never smoked anything.

                          I hardly ever drink alcoholic beverages but that's mostly because I don't enjoy their taste and mouth/throat feel.

                          I have nothing against drinking, as long as it's not overdone and (obviously!) not combined with driving or other dangerous activities. Under those conditions it's genuinely harmless fun and socializing.

                          The only time I was remotely drunk was at a wedding where I found a wine I actually liked. I think I drank the whole bottle, or maybe half of it, something like that. I liked the feeling of how my muscles are loose and don't react normally. I didn't feel like my thinking was compromised, but who knows.

                          Even if my mind was intact, it's obviously no state to drive if my muscles don't do what they would. I have no idea how some people actually get behind the wheel in this state.

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                          • D [email protected]

                            Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                            I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                            I haven't drank any booze in about 7 years. I stopped when I met my now wife cause I only drank in clubs before trying (and usually failing) to get laid and I was no longer single so why would I go to these places? I never liked the taste, tbh, and thanks to her I eventually went back to God and converted to Islam so that gave me an ever bigger push until eventually alcohol just tasted too gross to even consider. I also think that being foolishly drunk after a certain age is just shameful (have a glass of wine/can of beer here and there but if you're a loud alcoholic past the age of 30 you need to check yourself, and I hope you have no offspring yet/they're old enough to disregard your bad example).

                            I don't mind the herb, and I've smoked ciggies since I was 15 but I'm on almost on the 3rd month of a cannabis break (recent changes in my life require my full attention) and I went down to a pack of menthols a week years ago because the French government pretty much doubled the price of ciggies in the span of a decade. At least it forced me to control my intake! 😅

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                              Tried it, didn’t like it.

                              Cigarettes are gross, and alcohol leaves me with a headache and upset stomach.

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                              Drink more water when consuming alcohol and spread it out more. The headache is from dehydration.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                Late Gen X, practically Millennial here.

                                My parents expressly forbade me from smoking despite being heavy smokers themselves. They also got that same forbidding from their parents, but I guess it didn't stick with them.

                                As such, I'm not sure whether that had any influence, or whether it was a natural aversion to the stink and filth of it but I've never smoked. Cost would have also been a big factor that prevented me from getting into it. I never had any money as a kid, and also had no smoker friends, let alone generous smoker friends, so getting a hold of anything to smoke was pretty much impossible.

                                Stealing from my parents might have been an option, I suppose, but I would not have wanted to face their wrath had I done that.

                                Alcohol and I do not get along. Too many bad experiences have come about through the combination, and it took far too long for me to learn lessons from it.

                                Even if I was not on medication that came with the heavy suggestion to avoid alcohol, I would not drink.

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                                • D [email protected]

                                  Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                  I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                  No. I don't want cancer, so i don't smoke. I also was an alco, so I'm recovered now and don't want to go back to that. I'm sure my liver agrees with my decision.

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                    I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                    I don't smoke, can't stand the smell. I did try when I was a lad, it didn't take. I even tried clove cigs for a bit.

                                    Took me a lot longer with alcohol. Family history and trauma put me off trying until much later in life. But I've since developed a particular taste for red ales, rich bold stout, fruity cocktails, hard ciders, and a number of complex spirits.

                                    I had to shed that restrictive upbringing and get more in touch with my own tastes, which turned out to be surprisingly broad and nuanced.

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                                      Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

                                      I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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                                      I used to be a social smoker (cigarettes, shisha and randomly a cigar). However, I quit years ago with it.

                                      I once had a thought “we are like a lucifer lighter, isn’t it? We smoke, smoke and smoke. Get all burned up and then throw away our lives because of it”.

                                      At that moment, I told myself; no more. Quit cold-turkey. I never drink alcohol (due to religion).

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                                        No. I don't want cancer, so i don't smoke. I also was an alco, so I'm recovered now and don't want to go back to that. I'm sure my liver agrees with my decision.

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                                        I don't smoke or drink. These days, not sure if helps against cancer, since everything seems to give you cancer these days and it's just a matter of which cancer wins.

                                        I would never smoke again because how absolutely disgusting it is. I don't think many smokers realise how rancid their breath and clothes smell. Or they just hang out with other smokers and it doesn't matter. The other part is that smokers are just littering and society just accepted that smokers don't care and they have to throw their garbage somewhere.

                                        Drinking is similar, once you stop for a while you realise that it's not very good, and the whole culture around it is weird. I never realised how much you can weird people out by not drinking, because they have questions: why? But why tho? You can still drive after a glass. This wine is really good tho. This schnapps is very smooth. People will try to get you to drink and i thought about just telling people that i was an alcoholic, just so i don't have to explain myself all the time for something i don't do.

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                                          Late Gen X, practically Millennial here.

                                          My parents expressly forbade me from smoking despite being heavy smokers themselves. They also got that same forbidding from their parents, but I guess it didn't stick with them.

                                          As such, I'm not sure whether that had any influence, or whether it was a natural aversion to the stink and filth of it but I've never smoked. Cost would have also been a big factor that prevented me from getting into it. I never had any money as a kid, and also had no smoker friends, let alone generous smoker friends, so getting a hold of anything to smoke was pretty much impossible.

                                          Stealing from my parents might have been an option, I suppose, but I would not have wanted to face their wrath had I done that.

                                          Alcohol and I do not get along. Too many bad experiences have come about through the combination, and it took far too long for me to learn lessons from it.

                                          Even if I was not on medication that came with the heavy suggestion to avoid alcohol, I would not drink.

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                                          It's weird how that the smoking parents forbidding their children to smoke hardly ever works. My mom died of lung cancer, but she quit smoking like 20 years ago. My sister stopped smoking and is now back at full swing and will always ve i smoker i guess. Her boyfriend just always smoked, so that had a big part in it. Their children are now 7 and 5 and something tells me that they will just inherit that curse because giving up is just annoying i guess.

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