What features are missing from piefed, or, why aren't we reccommending piefed instead of lemmy?

[ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

All your saying is, it looks better. I am not using any Lemmy webfrontend, I've always been using the apps that are available, many of which are absolutely polished.

[avidamoeba@lemmy.ca]

Yeah, this would be my concern as well if I had to run it. Sure Python apps can be fast and most time is spend in IO, not compute, and if you're running a profitable operation the exact cost of compute might not matter much. However if you're running a non-profit service and you want it to be as dirt cheap as possible so it can be free for most users, then the cost of compute very much does matter.

[die4ever@retrolemmy.com]

The rate of growth does matter yea. If an instance gets worried, they can lock signups. Slow growth means the software has time to improve as they notice issues.

Lemmy had many issues scaling before, except Lemmy had huge surges with the Reddit API blackouts.

If people start recommending PieFed now, it's on their own terms instead of a massive wave. They can backoff if they get too many users.

[die4ever@retrolemmy.com]

https://piefed.fediverse.observer/list

[die4ever@retrolemmy.com]

What’s missing from Lemmy that would make it unattractive to the average user?

I don't think it's always easy to pinpoint UX issues and user friction. Sometimes these things just don't stick with mainstream users. I say it's worth a try to see which platform the average Reddit user will prefer.

But if you're gonna use from a phone, Lemmy's selection of mobile apps is unbeatable.

[flamingos@feddit.uk]

Fair point. It probably hard to see this things when you've been in the thick of Lemmy for as long as most of us here have. It's easy to dismiss not liking lemmy-ui because alternative frontends exist (written from Photon), but does that matter when the overwhelming majority of instances use it as their landing page.

[nusm@yall.theatl.social]

MBin does have one.

…for Android. Nothing for iOS.

[sabrew4k3@lazysoci.al]

Is there a way to see version number? Everything else seems way slower than the flagship instance and even that seems slower than every Lemmy instance

[flamingos@feddit.uk]

Seems they're all running the same version, or Piefed doesn't tag releases:

::: spoiler piefed.social nodeinfo

curl -s https://piefed.social/nodeinfo/2.0 | jq
{
  "openRegistrations": true,
  "protocols": [
    "activitypub"
  ],
  "software": {
    "name": "PieFed",
    "version": "0.1"
  },
  "usage": {
    "localComments": 12382,
    "localPosts": 1169,
    "users": {
      "activeHalfyear": 561,
      "activeMonth": 309,
      "total": 800
    }
  },
  "version": "2.0"
}

:::

::: spoiler feddit.online nodeinfo

curl -s https://feddit.online/nodeinfo/2.0 | jq
{
  "openRegistrations": true,
  "protocols": [
    "activitypub"
  ],
  "software": {
    "name": "PieFed",
    "version": "0.1"
  },
  "usage": {
    "localComments": 503,
    "localPosts": 214,
    "users": {
      "activeHalfyear": 85,
      "activeMonth": 34,
      "total": 85
    }
  },
  "version": "2.0"
}

:::

[Guest]

True, MBin is small so I'm not surprised they cater to the bigger platform.

[rglullis@communick.news]

If you want it to be "free to most users", the cost of data storage and IO will completely dominate over the cost of CPU.

There are plenty of good arguments to prefer Rust over python for a distributed application, but "language efficiency" is not one of them.

Anyway, if you are biased in favor of Rust and want a decent argument to justify it, I will let you use 'It's easier to compile Rust to WASM and have the application run on the browser, while compiling python in a cross-platform way is a nightmare', free of charge.

[endymion_mallorn@kbin.melroy.org]

I don't really have a positive thing to say about people who want to stick to Apple as their primary device ecosystem.

[avidamoeba@lemmy.ca]

Yeah, that makes sense for the defect class of performance problems. I'm more concerned with the inherent performance (compute) disadvantages of Python. Perhaps they wouldn't matter, hard to know without load testing.

I didn't downvote.

[blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

It may be a bit opiniated, but it's nice to see a different approach from Lemmy devs who don't see the need for any additional moderation tool.

I brought up mod mail during the AMA, it has been considered too complex to implement. A moderation panel with an overview of the mod queue would be nice too, but not a priority.

I'm not saying Piefed is perfect, but at least they prioritize that aspect.

[nusm@yall.theatl.social]

If you want to debate Apple, start another thread. This post is about Mbin and Piefied, and for me, I use Voyager on iOS to surf Lemmy. I don’t want to switch to or recommend Mbin or Piefied if there’s not an app for it and the best I can do is a PWA.

Don’t try to hijack the thread to push your anti Apple agenda. You can dislike Apple all you want, just not in this thread.

[blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

• apps
• alternative front ends
• Comments view / chat view

[nusm@yall.theatl.social]

You may not be from the US, but in the US smartphone market, as of late 2024, iOS (Apple) holds a larger market share than Android, with iOS at around 58% and Android at 42%.

[blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Valid point

[irelephant@lemm.ee]

As I said, it has a lot more polish. Its easier to discover communities, and it has feeds.

[cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de]

Voyager is so polished, it elevates the whole experience.