Coin-sized nuclear 3V battery with 50-year lifespan enters mass production
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searching Walmart website
Not yet.
The real market if this does hit actual shelves is whoever creates adapters for existing products.
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I wonder if it's a compatible replacement for a cr2032
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100 microwatts
This is a very important spec to include...this battery can deliver 0.003mA of power, which is incredibly little.
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100 microwatts
This is a very important spec to include...this battery can deliver 0.003mA of power, which is incredibly little.
what kind of things could you power with that amount?
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100 microwatts
This is a very important spec to include...this battery can deliver 0.003mA of power, which is incredibly little.
Should be plenty for watches and IOT devices.
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This is wild; the battery would outlive the electronics it's powering in almost all cases.
The output is incredibly tiny, but I wonder if it could be used to trickle-charge a higher-output battery for use in electronics that only need to be used infrequently for short durations.
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Should be plenty for watches and IOT devices.
Google says a Casio watch needs .004mA so not quite enough.
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what kind of things could you power with that amount?
Almost nothing... Maybe some very basic scientific equipment, but they do note that they'd be able to use multiple batteries layered to produce higher output, and that they're expecting to have a 1 watt version later this year; that'd be far more useful in practice.
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This is wild; the battery would outlive the electronics it's powering in almost all cases.
The output is incredibly tiny, but I wonder if it could be used to trickle-charge a higher-output battery for use in electronics that only need to be used infrequently for short durations.
That was my immediate thought too. Hook it to a super capacitor. The only problem is the self discharge is probably higher than what the nuclear cell can feed.
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Should be plenty for watches and IOT devices.
Not really actually...not from a single cell at least
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Google says a Casio watch needs .004mA so not quite enough.
I wonder how much we really need for a clock (555 eq) to work?
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I wonder if it's a compatible replacement for a cr2032
Its not, power output is less than 1/1000th of what a cr2032 can deliver
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Damn. I had to look up the SI prefix scale to make sure i got this right. 100 microwatts would be 0.1 miliwatts. If they truly do end up releasing a 1 watt version of this battery, it would be fucking perfect for meshtastic nodes. Currently, the most common radios used in those nodes transmit at 22 dBm, which is about 150 milliwatts. In client mute mode, the radio by itself transmits one packet every six to eight minutes on average. A 1W battery should constantly run the node without ever having to charge it or, even if not, only have to charge it extremely rarely. I'm not sure how long it takes to actually transmit a packet, but assuming it takes a minute per packet, which I think would be incredibly unlikely, then it would transmit seven times per hour if it transmitted every five minutes and would use about 21.4 milliwatts. As efficient as the NRF-52 chip is, I suspect it is the thing that's taking up most of the power.
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Google says a Casio watch needs .004mA so not quite enough.
That's definitely in the ballpark though. Surely they could cut 25% power draw to support a 50 year battery.
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That was my immediate thought too. Hook it to a super capacitor. The only problem is the self discharge is probably higher than what the nuclear cell can feed.
That's a good point; it becomes less economical if you need multiple of these cells just to counteract the self-discharge. Even so, it's really just a demo of the technology; they do mention they expect to have a 1 watt model later this year.
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searching Walmart website
Not yet.
The real market if this does hit actual shelves is whoever creates adapters for existing products.
Maybe for the 1-watt version they teased, but this one isn't powering consumer-level anything.
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You had me at "nuclear".
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Not really actually...not from a single cell at least
Why not?
A CR2032 has 235 mAh, which I believe Casio watches use, and their batteries last 5-7 years. So, if we divide that out, that's something like 5-6 microamps (235 mAh / 5 years / 365 years / 24 hours * 1000 = 5.36... microamps). Converting this to watts @ 3v: 15-18 microwatts.
I think that math is correct (this question reaches a similar conclusion), and it leaves some headroom as well.
If you remove RF from the equation (Bluetooth, WiFi, etc) and custom build the chip, you can get some very low power draws. If all you're doing is sampling temps or something, you could send an update periodically over serial or something and fit under 100microwatts or so. You could probably even do RF if you have a large enough cap and send once it charges.
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I wonder how much we really need for a clock (555 eq) to work?
A lot more than that. 2ma
Analog circuits are weird though
