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The only thing "convoluted" about this whole announcement was pricing.

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  • K [email protected]

    The only thing "convoluted" about this whole announcement was pricing.
    The price of the console
    The price of the games
    The price of their online services and upgrades...

    All of that is gut-wrenching as Nintendo claws at its dedicated fans wallets.

    Otherwise the features and games look amazing, i understand why people are willing to pay those prices.

    Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.

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    jailbreaks and emulators

    I'm afraid of the possibility the Switch 2 will be their Xbox 360 -> Xbox One moment in terms of security...

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    • B [email protected]

      Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.

      Nintendo won't make this mistake again. But I'm like you, also hoping their security experts are the same dipshits as before so we can resume pirating the entire overpriced Nintendo library.

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      youd be suprised. all of Sonys consoles are hackable, despite efforts to stopping it. willing to guess that another SD express exploit will be found, as one was already found late last year, and the switch 2 is one of the devices that uses it.

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      • B [email protected]

        Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.

        Nintendo won't make this mistake again. But I'm like you, also hoping their security experts are the same dipshits as before so we can resume pirating the entire overpriced Nintendo library.

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        Pure speculation here, but I'm pretty sure the reason Nintendo significantly ramped up their legal hiring in the past few years is because they figured it was cheaper to chill the development of custom firmware and emulation than it was to tighten up their hardware.

        I'm sure they still made an effort, but I'd be very surprised if the security isn't broken fairly quickly.

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        • K [email protected]

          The only thing "convoluted" about this whole announcement was pricing.
          The price of the console
          The price of the games
          The price of their online services and upgrades...

          All of that is gut-wrenching as Nintendo claws at its dedicated fans wallets.

          Otherwise the features and games look amazing, i understand why people are willing to pay those prices.

          Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.

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          "dedicated fan". play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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          • M [email protected]

            Nintendo continuously makes the easiest to hack and emulate consoles and handhelds. They been fighting emulation for 30 years and still churn out systems that get cracked immediately.

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            Hell my kids play N64 on my modded Wii. They were playing Mario kart just a few hours ago lmao

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            • B [email protected]

              Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.

              Nintendo won't make this mistake again. But I'm like you, also hoping their security experts are the same dipshits as before so we can resume pirating the entire overpriced Nintendo library.

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              They've had dumb vulnerabilities in every single console. Given this one is a refresh, it probably won't have some huge unpatchable vuln, but there's always something.

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              • B [email protected]

                Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.

                Nintendo won't make this mistake again. But I'm like you, also hoping their security experts are the same dipshits as before so we can resume pirating the entire overpriced Nintendo library.

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                The first model run of Switches had a CPU hardware flaw that wad Nvidia's fault.

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                • B [email protected]

                  Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.

                  Nintendo won't make this mistake again. But I'm like you, also hoping their security experts are the same dipshits as before so we can resume pirating the entire overpriced Nintendo library.

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                  Nintendo won’t make this mistake again

                  17th time's the charm

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                  • B [email protected]

                    Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.

                    Nintendo won't make this mistake again. But I'm like you, also hoping their security experts are the same dipshits as before so we can resume pirating the entire overpriced Nintendo library.

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                    Nintendo makes this mistake like every single time, what do you mean

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                    • K [email protected]

                      The only thing "convoluted" about this whole announcement was pricing.
                      The price of the console
                      The price of the games
                      The price of their online services and upgrades...

                      All of that is gut-wrenching as Nintendo claws at its dedicated fans wallets.

                      Otherwise the features and games look amazing, i understand why people are willing to pay those prices.

                      Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.

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                      They made a change that the cartridges no longer hold the game data but will require a download of the game and the cartridge is just a key for the digital game.

                      That will stop game dumping from the cartridge. But with a jailbroken console, we can still get the game that way.

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                        They made a change that the cartridges no longer hold the game data but will require a download of the game and the cartridge is just a key for the digital game.

                        That will stop game dumping from the cartridge. But with a jailbroken console, we can still get the game that way.

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                        That’s not true. The physical games do contain the game. Game-key cards do not. There is a difference

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                        • M [email protected]

                          That’s not true. The physical games do contain the game. Game-key cards do not. There is a difference

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                          Wait so there will be two different types of cartridges? Some that do hold game data and others that don’t and are just the digital key?

                          I was under the impression this would be all cartridges for the Switch 2.

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                            Wait so there will be two different types of cartridges? Some that do hold game data and others that don’t and are just the digital key?

                            I was under the impression this would be all cartridges for the Switch 2.

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                            Yes. In the direct they specifically said that physical game cartridges will be the same shape and size as switch 1 cartridges, but will be red and are much faster. Then in their customer support documentation on their website it says that game key cards are different from regular game cards and will be clearly labeled as “game-key card” on the packaging. However, this doesn’t mean that they will always produce working physical games. This game-key card thing may just be a way to slowly transition into an all digital market without causing a sudden uproar

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                              youd be suprised. all of Sonys consoles are hackable, despite efforts to stopping it. willing to guess that another SD express exploit will be found, as one was already found late last year, and the switch 2 is one of the devices that uses it.

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                              you mean nintendo instead of sony right?

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                                you mean nintendo instead of sony right?

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                                no, using sony as an example. all sony consoles are hackable despite effort to stop it. nintendo is the same situation

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                                  youd be suprised. all of Sonys consoles are hackable, despite efforts to stopping it. willing to guess that another SD express exploit will be found, as one was already found late last year, and the switch 2 is one of the devices that uses it.

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                                  I think one will probably be found, but it won't be hardware level like the Switch 1, so it will get patched.

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                                  • K [email protected]

                                    The only thing "convoluted" about this whole announcement was pricing.
                                    The price of the console
                                    The price of the games
                                    The price of their online services and upgrades...

                                    All of that is gut-wrenching as Nintendo claws at its dedicated fans wallets.

                                    Otherwise the features and games look amazing, i understand why people are willing to pay those prices.

                                    Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.

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                                    Maybe I’m just getting old, but I was very bored and underwhelmed during the entire presentation even before the terrible pricing reveal. I like the mouse joycons and the Donkey Kong game. That’s about it.

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