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UK Parliament will debate a petition to join the EU on 24 March 2025

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  • adam_y@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

    There's such a prevailing vibe that the EU would want us back too... What if they don't?

    I mean, after events of this week, it's probably more likely, but even then they'd be well within their rights to tell us to sod off.

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    Even during early phases of Brexis the EU was open to the UK rejoining - in an official manner.

    I don't see why that would have changed. If the UK wants to rejoin, it can apply, and the join process will start. It's simple, really.

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      Is rejoining the EU even compatible with being in the CPTPP?

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        They already responded to the petition it's there in the website, the discussion will just be more of the same

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        Has the King any role in this? Either by law or because of his own mind? I mean he is one of UK's biggest influencers, no?

        Besides some media coverage what follows? Also what about the person(s) who submitted this petition? Will they be included in the process, for example by being invited to present the cause? And are there moments in history where petitions made an actual difference already during this official act or right after it (e.g. some MP or the Government changed their mind surprisingly)?

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        • crazi_man@lemm.eeC [email protected]

          This point will get raised in Parliament because they are technically obliged to. They'll quickly decide that they cannot persue rejoining the EU and they must continue with making the best they can of Brexit. Nothing will come of this.

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          I appreciate your answer, but I posted some follow-up questions here to maintain overview. Maybe you like to post over there to enlighten me further.

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            Has the King any role in this? Either by law or because of his own mind? I mean he is one of UK's biggest influencers, no?

            Besides some media coverage what follows? Also what about the person(s) who submitted this petition? Will they be included in the process, for example by being invited to present the cause? And are there moments in history where petitions made an actual difference already during this official act or right after it (e.g. some MP or the Government changed their mind surprisingly)?

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            The king's role is entirely ceremonial and the monarch does not express a political option. England is a parliamentary democracy and the king gives his blessing to whatever parliament puts in front of him. Some anti-monarchists argue that the rotalss are a very expensive tourist attraction at this point, and useless drain on public funds.

            I don't know the exact ins and outs of the parliamentary process. There must be some previous example of a petition changing something at some point.....but I would think of that an as an exceedingly rare exception.

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            • lumidaub@feddit.orgL [email protected]

              I still say Scotland and Wales should scram and join us on their own. Ireland was due reunification last year anyway.

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              Wales voted to leave.

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                It's going to be blocked by the lords and then silently killed.

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                  The king's role is entirely ceremonial and the monarch does not express a political option. England is a parliamentary democracy and the king gives his blessing to whatever parliament puts in front of him. Some anti-monarchists argue that the rotalss are a very expensive tourist attraction at this point, and useless drain on public funds.

                  I don't know the exact ins and outs of the parliamentary process. There must be some previous example of a petition changing something at some point.....but I would think of that an as an exceedingly rare exception.

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                  genuine question: What would the consequences of the king not giving his blessing to whatever parliament puts in front of him be? What would the law see as the next step? Would there be a parliamentary tool in place to "override" the king?

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                    genuine question: What would the consequences of the king not giving his blessing to whatever parliament puts in front of him be? What would the law see as the next step? Would there be a parliamentary tool in place to "override" the king?

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                    I don't know. Considering that the king does whatever parliament tells him, this has never come up. I don't know what the details are of the rules and processes.

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                      World politics are quite grim at the moment. Having the UK rejoin would be a great signal for a unified Europe.

                      It probably won't happen, but one may dream.

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