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Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account

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  • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]
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    I really hope the whole shift away from American products will convince more software and game developers to provide native support for Linux. I am approaching the fence.

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      Why the fuck is a Microsoft account so important to Windows that running it without one is considered a "loophole"?

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      They want to make money off of services, every service they offer requires a Microsoft account to purchase and use. Everyone that they force to make an account during setup is one step closer to paying for a Microsoft service.

      There are obviously tradeoffs (less sales of these versions of windows and some users pushed away from Windows altogether among others), but the motivation is clear.

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        "Sucking off Bill Gates is bad, but Linux doesn't support video games"

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        I switched to Ubuntu a few months ago, and all my Steam games work just fine. Never looking back.

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        • kernelle@0d.gsK [email protected]

          You are wrong for now, it is still possible.

          • Ctrl + Shift + F3 during setup gives you access to sysprep
          • In an admin CMD you can excecute the BypassNRO.cmd script. In C:\Windows\System32\oobe\
          • I have encountered one 24H2 installation where the oobe folder was empty, but if you copy the file from another device it works just the same
          • Reboot from sysprep and you can now select "Install without internet" when selecting a WIFI

          This will not work if you're already connected to a wifi. BypassNRO sets a registry flag, so it's only a matter of time till they patch it out, but it works for now.

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          this does not work for Windows HOME edition

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          • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

            And it still tries to convince you to go MS account with it's, "even better, create a Microsoft account" link that's conveniently located where the Next button should be.

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            All I know is i been doing this for 6 months upgrading companies from win 10 to 11. I am sure you're not doing something wrong.

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            • mat@linux.communityM [email protected]

              What games keep you on Windows? Besides a few anticheat-enabled ones which choose not to support it, basically everything works fine. I game (and work in gamedev!) 100% on Linux.

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              My vr driving Sim rig just works in windows, the most I've ever had to do is map my shifter in game. Steamvr, hardware drivers, the actual games, it all just works without doing anything. Plug and play. I'm sure I can get it all working in Linux, eventually. I was(trying to) gaming on Ubuntu 10.04 with wine. I was first batch steamdeck and the amount of progress with gaming I've seen thanks to valve and proton means I'll be coming back. But I'm just waiting for steamOS to be open release. But I am a KDE head so honestly I'll end up whatever distro that does proton and KDE by the end of this year.

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                this does not work for Windows HOME edition

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                Yes it does, a client needed this documentation and I've tested it extensively. The only exception is when S-Mode is enabled.

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                • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]
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                  I just deleted my old Mocrosoft account. Forgot I had it until recently.

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                  • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]
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                    I'm so glad I finally ditched that shit for good

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                      All I know is i been doing this for 6 months upgrading companies from win 10 to 11. I am sure you're not doing something wrong.

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                      Upgrades are a different process than a brand new install. Going from 10 to 11 on a Pro is an easy process. Long, as in a couple hours, but easy. The post is talking about brand new installs (the OOTB experience).

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                      • toes@ani.socialT [email protected]

                        Yeah I agree. I just don't wanna see more apps made exclusively for SteamOS and winderp. So I feel it's important to highlight it's just another Linux distro.

                        https://youtu.be/5KYQRk_SIB8 this is what pulled my attention to the matter.

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                        That's very fair! I was concerned by that video too, though I would point out that if I remember right, the games in that video don't work on non-steamdeck devices including if you install steamos on a laptop or desktop

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                          Why the fuck is a Microsoft account so important to Windows that running it without one is considered a "loophole"?

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                          because microsoft is shifting focus from selling you a product, to selling you as a product

                          And they need a unique account to track every single click and thing you do on your PC, and the web, and everywhere else to facilitate doing that with greater control and ease.

                          Its literally what, and for the same reason, google has done for the past decade+

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                            "Sucking off Bill Gates is bad, but Linux doesn't support video games"

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                            Bill Gates doesn't run Microsoft anymore. He's not the CEO and largely not responsible for the change in their business model.

                            Also, I game on Linux more than I do on windows (though I do have a partition in my drive to run windows for games I couldn't get working on steam OS/ Bazzite. It's literally 4 games out of over 100.

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                              Every time I hear about Microsoft it makes me wanna take a shit

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                              Pavlov Reaction?

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                                Let's install Windows 10 for protest

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                                Or linux.

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                                  Why the fuck is a Microsoft account so important to Windows that running it without one is considered a "loophole"?

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                                  Because we need your data silly 😊

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                                    That's very fair! I was concerned by that video too, though I would point out that if I remember right, the games in that video don't work on non-steamdeck devices including if you install steamos on a laptop or desktop

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                                    From my understanding of this video. That's because they intentionally locked the game to work on the steam deck.

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                                      Uh

                                      Who's ready to talk Linux

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                                      • reygle@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                        Uh

                                        Who's ready to talk Linux

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                                        I'm liking Linux Mint and Kubuntu personally.

                                        Especially Kubuntu for my main desktop PC, Linux Mint for my little clunker PC I use to run my 3D printers.

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                                          My vr driving Sim rig just works in windows, the most I've ever had to do is map my shifter in game. Steamvr, hardware drivers, the actual games, it all just works without doing anything. Plug and play. I'm sure I can get it all working in Linux, eventually. I was(trying to) gaming on Ubuntu 10.04 with wine. I was first batch steamdeck and the amount of progress with gaming I've seen thanks to valve and proton means I'll be coming back. But I'm just waiting for steamOS to be open release. But I am a KDE head so honestly I'll end up whatever distro that does proton and KDE by the end of this year.

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                                          Come on in, the water is fine. The latest version of Ubuntu is like 24, so things have changed a lot, and for the better.

                                          Get yourself a Kubuntu image, and give it a try.

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