Mozilla under fire for Firefox AI "bloat" that blows up CPU and drains battery
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why shouldn't you have the option to turn things off? try turning off the ai features in chrome.
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Did a project several years where the customrr required that the server we delivered specifically for the project never use more than 50% CPU or RAM. No requirements about how fast it actually performs its intended function, just that it can only utilise half the available resources while doing it.
wrote last edited by [email protected]That RAM is mint condition collectors edition RAM. We're just storing it there temporarily.
Don't you dare fucking touch it.
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How do you make browsling a good experience, other than performance?
I like the webpage translation it offers. I'd hate to lose it. Sync and tab sending is also very important to me, between desktop, mobile phone, and tablet.
I'm sure debloating would inevitably mean losing features that are required to catch the average internet user.
Why not add this features as browser extension?
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On my pixel 6 pro it takes a few seconds before I can start typing in the browser.
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Firefox has always been resource heavy. Try having multiple streams open at the same time... The browser just takes a shit.
If you want something much lighter and more stable waterfox is the way to go.
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I just wish one could donate to firefox development specifically. Then they could rid it of all the advertisement and tracking stuff.
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I love that people get upset that their CPU is using its resources when they're using it.
Why don't they download more CPU? Are they stupid?
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why shouldn't you have the option to turn things off? try turning off the ai features in chrome.
The problem is that it's opt-out and not opt-in, and it should be opt-in.
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I just want a web browser that's not based in the USA.
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I switched to FF after having enough of Chrome's shenanigans. I don't make changes easily, and I took the sacrifice of not being able to receive calls over Facebook (desktop browser, and some of my acquaintances wouldn't leave FB), and I still preferred Firefox after that.
And now they want to turn it into another Chrome? I could still just use Chrome and have the lost functionality. I mean I won't, but they will just lose users with that direction.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Here I am using browsers like apps. Chrome is my facebook app. I do zero else with it lol.
but really, my solution works fine. Is another 200MB on your SSD really that big of a sacrifice? I have Firefox, Chrome(in a fucking container where it belongs) and Librewolf installed lol.
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I just wish one could donate to firefox development specifically. Then they could rid it of all the advertisement and tracking stuff.
Bless your heart.
They will do whatever they believe will maximize profit.
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I wish Mozilla would just debloat the browser, focus on performance and making browsing a good experience. But unfortunately their revenue situation is bad. At this stage, they won't even manage to survive through donations after annoying their main user base.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Their revenue is fine. They just waste it on unnecessary bullshit.
They're a business, after all. They don't care about their products. They care about doing the least amount of work while making the most amount of money.
It's not about keeping the lights on. It's about living as luxurious a life as possible.
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Make a stable, privacy respecting, robust browser with a powerful extension environment? No let's try do do chrome 2
Mozilla could solve all of it's issuesby just removing all of the executives
How do you think they will do that without any money?
It's always "just do the browser" , ignoring the fact that everything you listed doesn't matter at all to the general public who are likely using Chrome because it's the default on their device.
Mozilla is trying to find revenue sources but people just complain about it.
The AI integration is clearly attempting to be a new search box.
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Make a stable, privacy respecting, robust browser with a powerful extension environment? No let's try do do chrome 2
Mozilla could solve all of it's issuesby just removing all of the executives
It's definitely an issue with the culture among tech companies.
They're all regurgitating each other's shit, so whenever a bad idea gets passed around, they all jump on board.
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Their revenue is fine. They just waste it on unnecessary bullshit.
They're a business, after all. They don't care about their products. They care about doing the least amount of work while making the most amount of money.
It's not about keeping the lights on. It's about living as luxurious a life as possible.
wrote last edited by [email protected]They care about doing the least amount of work while making the most amount of money.
I mean that's what capitalism does in a nutshell. Lower costs and increase the price. It's optimized for profit, not for the best product, unfortunately. The only thing that should keep it within lines is competition, but if the competition isn't any better it won't help
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They are all out of date, updates just take longer to arrive including security patches. Just use base Firefox and configure it as needed.
Always the answer until it goes to complete shit. Folks will always suggest other forks, but in the same breath describe them as subpar compared to Firefox base. FF is still best, just tweak it a smidge, browse away.
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Firefox is a good example of "either you die a hero or live long enoigh to see yourself become the villian"
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This. It costs hundreds of millions per year to develop a web renderer. The security expertise required in particular is immense.
People have made clear they will not pay for browsers. At the same time, Mozilla doesn't want to hoover up mountains of personally identifiable information like Google and MS do.
People hate Mozilla for doing what they can to make money, and they also hate the idea of paying.
I understand the frustration, but I genuinely don't know what the community expects.
Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with or see sense in every Mozilla decision, but people act like they're satan incarnate and it's just ridiculous.
The community are idiots.
They just want free shit. They claim they would love to pay but look at the percentage of donations things like VLC get, they won't pay.
Google likely spends over a billion dollars a year developing Chrome and everyone likes to talk about how AI might upset web search forgetting that what is where Mozilla's money comes from.
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Well this is obviously personal to some degree, but for me it would be to fix bugs, don't crash, dont make me restart after an update and lose my incognito tabs, focus on being w3c compliant, block ads, maybe allow blocking annoying cookie banners and maybe allow good keyboard navigation. I like some features other browsers have, such as integrated tor browsing - but since I am not a big fan of bloat, I'm not sure whether that should be handled outside of the browser
block ads, maybe allow blocking annoying cookie banners and maybe allow good keyboard navigation.
those are/could be browsing extensions. i don't see why the browser should integrate ad blocking when it could just be an extension (that could be installed by default, like how librewolf has ublock origin installed by default).
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Which fork should I be using? I am already using IronFox on Android and I'm loving it. What about Linux? What's your favourite?
Librewolf, with the Cascade CSS theme. I used to use Zen Browser but honestly I don't really like vertical tabs that much.
