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John Oliver promoted alternatives to big tech in last night's episode, including Mastodon and Pixelfed

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  • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

    If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

    Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

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    So thats why it was slow for a while.

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    • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

      Very interesting, thanks for telling me - i recall them sharing your IP with bing/google? but since they're building their own, this may change. I'll keep an eye on this, thank you

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      Probably not, they sell your traffic data to plant trees, they're not privacy oriented its just that their greed serves a common good.

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      • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

        DDG and Brave were pushed as "censorship free" alternatives, back when I was looking into covid disinformation, because the very obviously fake websites would sometimes rank higher on them

        There may be more to it though

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        I've heard all kinds of bad rumours about Brave but idk if any of it is true.

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        • pika@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

          This right here, the everyday person doesn't know what federation is let alone believes that it's an alternative to federated platforms. They see it as a better Twitter that's not run by Musk and honestly that's all they need to know.

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          #104

          Holy shit! A sane rational Lemmy user in the /c/Fediverse community! Someone who sees the bigger picture, and isn't just reacting to this small niche area of the internet.

          Look, I love Lemmy, but I can't sit by and act like just because something is a better service, and makes logical sense to use, that people will ever have even heard of it. That's not how PEOPLE work. Yes, Lemmy is better than reddit. But no, Lemmy will not overtake reddit in usercount maybe in my lifetime. Unless reddit gets sold, and then plummets into death like myspace did. Then Lemmy wins by default, but it's not the same thing.

          And everyone (well, everyone but you I guess) most people on this community seems to miss all that.

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          • E [email protected]

            Yeah I think it's best we don't advertise this place. It's a little strange.

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            It's good to have some friends, but don't let too many normies in.....

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            • A [email protected]

              someone tell that n00b that Bluesky is not an alternative

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              It's fun for now until the state gets a hold of it. They'll be over here sooner or later, just let them trickle in and get everyone used to it.

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                Are we that degenerate already??

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                YES! #winning

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                • knova@infosec.pubK [email protected]

                  Intentionally, I think.

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                  Have you heard of bridgy?

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                  • openstars@piefed.socialO [email protected]

                    John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.

                    Too late - we are already here!:-P

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                    How can anyone not love the guy?

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                    • muntedcrocodile@lemm.eeM [email protected]

                      I'm really not happy about bluesky their fragmentation of the fediverse protocols is only going to harm us in the long run.

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                      Bluesky was always twitters goal, they were losing hella money, so they devloped blue sky.

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                        So twitter didn't make money anyways, this is a better way for them to hold power

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                          If I was losing money and wanted to mantain control over the public id become a public benefit corp too

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                          • B [email protected]

                            Do you really think Lemmy could handle the amount of people that Reddit has?

                            As far as I know the existing instances are usually running on capacity and always in need of donations, and that’s when the owner isn’t handling the costs themselves. I’m not sure how well most instances have right now.

                            Maybe Lemmy would benefit of some way to get people to pay, such as giving people awards etc. like Reddit. Despite being useless stuff, it might provide some fun that would make hardcore users want to pay. But for that to work out, all apps would also need to show the posts awarded in a different way, so I think that’s unlikely.

                            But the point is that without a business model, the Fediverse will only be able to handle enthusiasts.

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                            Do you really think Lemmy could handle the amount of people that Reddit has?

                            yup. no question. Not one instance mind you, but Reddit is also a giant cluster. (and clusterfuck)

                            As far as I know the existing instances are usually running on capacity and always in need of donations,

                            We just need the big bois to stop stuffing themselves. There's 0 reason to have 2/3 of the totally traffic flooding into world because people are scared of Federation that they never even have to deal with.

                            Maybe Lemmy would benefit of some way to get people to pay, such as purchasing the ability to give people awards etc.

                            Maybe we make some premium pay servers with baller architecture, killer response time, user capacity limits and high speed storage?

                            But the point is that without a business model, the Fediverse will only be able to handle a limited number of enthusiasts before it faces scaling problems.

                            Eventually, it's going to be ads, donations or payments. It's all someone else's computer, someone has to foot the bill. But at great scale, you should be able to have an ad-free experience for something in the range a dollar or two a month.

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                              It's good to have some friends, but don't let too many normies in.....

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                              We reached a point a while ago where yall saying shit like this became the "normies"

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                              • muntedcrocodile@lemm.eeM [email protected]

                                I'm really not happy about bluesky their fragmentation of the fediverse protocols is only going to harm us in the long run.

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                                I’m really not happy about bluesky their fragmentation of the fediverse protocols

                                shrug, I wish they were with us, but they are also a big ole corporate entity, so I'm kind ok with us staying our our side of the fence. As they need to implement payment and corporate protections to their network, we're free to be free over here.

                                is only going to harm us in the long run.

                                We don't have to play ball. not with them anyway,

                                I think, If we have any credible threat, it's going to be from the Governmental gross anti-tampering laws, forced moderation, or backup regulations. They could make it legally difficulty for us to exist.

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                                  We reached a point a while ago where yall saying shit like this became the "normies"

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                                  a while ago where yall saying shit like this became the “normies”

                                  Ohh it's normal for us. But there are still a lot of sports all-consuming, rabble rousing, linux hating, clue collar people still on Reddit, any I don't mind them staying over there.

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    Come to Lemmy, we got: blood thirsty Linux users, furries, femboys, communists, and tankies. Also, porn.

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                                    A flying squid, too.

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                                    • J [email protected]

                                      SMS is incredibly antiquated as soon as you want to do anything multimedia, or heck sending an SMS longer than 144 characters.

                                      My mother received a video over SMS the other day and it legitimately looked like it was filmed on a Nokia 6310.

                                      I've encouraged my family to use Signal to replace SMS and it functions really well as an SMS upgrade. It's more secure, private, supports sending decent quality multimedia, the interface is simplistic, it has formatting, does video calls well.

                                      From both a security and usability perspective, it wins out on SMS in my opinion.

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                                      Don't get me wrong, I agree with everything you've said here.

                                      SMS and MMS are an antique technology, I can't argue that. But it's not going to change the fact that my family is not going to install another messaging app on their device in order to talk to me. They're going to text me or call me anyway so therefore there's no point, and hopefully with the improvements on the RCS standard the issues that have occurred with SMS and MMS will go away.

                                      As is I have four different messaging apps on my phone ignoring my messages app, signal (which I can count on one hand the amount of my friends that have an account), Discord which the majority of my online friends are on, and less than a handful of my relatives are on. Telegram which I mostly have for artists, and Revolt which I really should uninstall but like I really want that project to go somewhere.

                                      My family is almost exclusively on Facebook messenger, I do not use Facebook Messenger, sms/rcs is the only system that my relatives and I both have, and they're not about to dump Facebook Messenger which works completely for what they want solely to talk to one person which would be me.

                                      So yes I fully agree with everything you've stated there, 100%. But it's a perfect example of how on paper it sounds amazing but in practice it doesn't work. At the end of the day my family is going to text me regardless if I tell them that I'm on Signal, because I'm not on Facebook and they already have SMS on their phone

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                                      • A [email protected]

                                        i imagine its because text messages are saved by your provider and can be used or accessed by law enforcement even if deleted. but that may or may not be an issue for most people swapping recipes or talking to their family about normal every day stuff.

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                                        Yeah I believe that, the people I have on my signal are generally ones that are worried that the cops are going to track them or something. I fully agree that privacy is important, unfortunately my family and the general public care is significantly less

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                                          a while ago where yall saying shit like this became the “normies”

                                          Ohh it's normal for us. But there are still a lot of sports all-consuming, rabble rousing, linux hating, clue collar people still on Reddit, any I don't mind them staying over there.

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                                          Nieche communities are very quiet here though.

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