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Microsoft begins turning off uBlock Origin and other Manifest V2-based extensions in Edge

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  • T [email protected]

    How would lemmy.ml being federated with lemmy.world affect how a user on sopuli.xyz sees content posted by a lemmy.ml account?

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    It's more that .ml is the biggest instance with that filter that will show up on .world, the biggest instance overall. So statistically, unless they are specifically looking at instances with automatic slur post filtering, this is the situation they will notice it in. They aren't seeing the content differently, the removed is happening at the post so it's the same experience for everybody.

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    • T [email protected]

      Brave will support it until it becomes inconvenient to do so as the Chromium base keeps moving everywhere onwards.

      Regardless, Brave have their own skeletons in the closet... crypto, installing other Brave applications during browser install without consent, injecting their affiliate links when nobody asked, a CEO who donated money to homophobic causes more than once.

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      Fair, I love Brave too much tho. And I don't care about Manifest V2. So, for me personally its great.

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      • K [email protected]

        it's very brave to say something like that here

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        Why? Brave is amazing!

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          Why? Brave is amazing!

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          brave is built on chromium and it also has crypto stuff, so people here hate it

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          • T [email protected]

            The browser you use to download Firefox

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            The browser you use to download Firefox

            Huh? Just type winget install Mozilla.Firefox into PowerShell / cmd.

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            • regrettable_incident@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

              My work insists on using it too. Fuck knows why, maybe it's a security thing? And my personal laptop is constantly nagging me to use edge - it could be the best browser ever and I would still avoid it just because of the pushiness.

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              It's a good Chromium based Windows native browser that has integration with your Entra ID account so all your bookmarks / history is automatically synced and users have seamless experience when switching devices. No longer seeing tickets like ″My bookmarks are gone after I reinstalled my PC″ is enough to consider Edge as your company main browser. And the fact that it is part of OS, you do not need to worry about install and patching.

              I prefer Firefox, but from Chromium browsers Edge is really good, you cannot expect companies to suggest something like Vivaldi.

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                The latest Edge Canary version started disabling Manifest V2-based extensions with the following message: "This extension is no longer supported. Microsoft Edge recommends that you remove it." Although the browser turns off old extensions without asking, you can still make them work by clicking "Manage extension" and toggling it back (you will have to acknowledge another prompt).

                At this point, it is not entirely clear what is going on. Google started phasing out Manifest V2 extensions in June 2024, and it has a clear roadmap for the process. Microsoft's documentation, however, still says "TBD," so the exact dates are not known yet. This leads to some speculating about the situation being one of "unexpected changes" coming from Chromium. Either way, sooner or later, Microsoft will ditch MV2-based extensions, so get ready as we wait for Microsoft to shine some light on its plans.

                Another thing worth noting is that the change does not appear to be affecting Edge's stable release or Beta/Dev Channels. For now, only Canary versions disable uBlock Origin and other MV2 extensions, leaving users a way to toggle them back on. Also, the uBlock Origin is still available in the Edge Add-ons store

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                Yeah, if you didn't see that writing on the wall you need your eyes testing.

                No Chrome browser will be maintained to keep using Manifest V2.

                Use Firefox.

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                • O [email protected]

                  It's a good Chromium based Windows native browser that has integration with your Entra ID account so all your bookmarks / history is automatically synced and users have seamless experience when switching devices. No longer seeing tickets like ″My bookmarks are gone after I reinstalled my PC″ is enough to consider Edge as your company main browser. And the fact that it is part of OS, you do not need to worry about install and patching.

                  I prefer Firefox, but from Chromium browsers Edge is really good, you cannot expect companies to suggest something like Vivaldi.

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                  Yeah, that's fair, I thought it would probably be something like that. TBF it's work, they're paying me, I'll use whatever they choose. I won't have it on my own computer though just because of Microsoft's hard sell

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                  • J [email protected]

                    Microsoft is a spineless removed.

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                    Removed? What could the comment possibly say in this context that would warrant removal?

                    God, .ml manages to be the worst parts of both shitlib civility bullshit and tankie bullshit.

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                    • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

                      Yeah, if you didn't see that writing on the wall you need your eyes testing.

                      No Chrome browser will be maintained to keep using Manifest V2.

                      Use Firefox.

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                      Mozilla sucks as well

                      We’re truly doomed

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                      • P [email protected]

                        Nooo, it is browser on my workplace! How should I work efficiently without uBlock!?!?

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                        The new manifest v3 version is actually not that bad, though not nearly as good as normal ublock.

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                        • gunpachi@lemmings.worldG [email protected]

                          My friends who are less tech literate swear by brave. I think it's the way they market their browser... Some of Brave's core audience don't want to install a third party extension for adblock (either they don't like third party or they just don't know they can do it in other browsers)

                          Also on opening a new tab, they show the stats of how much data they saved and how much ads it blocked. Some people like seeing the number grow.

                          All this is my speculation. There may be some other reason for it being this popular.

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                          My friends who are less tech literate swear by brave

                          I am entirely unshocked that people who don't know shit, swear by bad products and scams.

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                          • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                            We need a truly FOSS browser that developed and maintained by the community. Librewolf isn't it unless it fully forks away from Mozilla. We need a new engine and we just don't have one yet.

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                            Why a new engine, Firefox is open source?!

                            Fork Firefox.

                            But good luck funding a team to keep up with commercial companies’ pace. It needs funding.

                            If Mozilla made a way to donate in a way that I KNEW it would go towards the maintenance of the browser, and not another crappy thing they’re trying to be profitable, I’d donate in a second. I spend about £30/month on OSS donations and I’d happily add £5/month to Mozilla if I trusted them not to misspend it.

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                              Why a new engine, Firefox is open source?!

                              Fork Firefox.

                              But good luck funding a team to keep up with commercial companies’ pace. It needs funding.

                              If Mozilla made a way to donate in a way that I KNEW it would go towards the maintenance of the browser, and not another crappy thing they’re trying to be profitable, I’d donate in a second. I spend about £30/month on OSS donations and I’d happily add £5/month to Mozilla if I trusted them not to misspend it.

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                              But good luck funding a team to keep up with commercial companies’ pace.

                              You answered the question yourself. The worry is that without a hard fork that is fully maintained we'll continue to have a dependence on Mozilla. It doesn't need to be a new engine, but it does need to be an independent one.

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                              • R [email protected]

                                Right, you don't need extensions, because you don't need customization, because what you need is what we the corp say you need.

                                I think Web as it exists is a failed branch of evolution.

                                A networked (solved) hypertext (solved) document (solved) system - yes. A networked hypertext system with one or two unbelievably complex clients, where only enormous corps have enough resources to change something, - no. One can add steps - E2E encryption, dynamic services, scripts, all not requiring a monolithic piece of nonsense.

                                BTW, those hating Flash, I hope, do realize that its proper, paradigm-abiding replacement would be a FOSS plugin with similar goal, not what we have.

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                                For flash I think you're describing Ruffle

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                                • hexarei@programming.devH [email protected]

                                  For flash I think you're describing Ruffle

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                                  No, Ruffle is an alternative interpreter. I mean an alternative, FOSS, technology.

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                                  • K [email protected]

                                    brave is built on chromium and it also has crypto stuff, so people here hate it

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                                    You can easily hide crypto stuff (which I do) and Chromium is great, just not Google Chrome, but the actual Chromium.

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                                      You can easily hide crypto stuff (which I do) and Chromium is great, just not Google Chrome, but the actual Chromium.

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                                      the problem with chromium is that because 98% of people use it, google gets to decide how the internet works basically

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                                        It's a good Chromium based Windows native browser that has integration with your Entra ID account so all your bookmarks / history is automatically synced and users have seamless experience when switching devices. No longer seeing tickets like ″My bookmarks are gone after I reinstalled my PC″ is enough to consider Edge as your company main browser. And the fact that it is part of OS, you do not need to worry about install and patching.

                                        I prefer Firefox, but from Chromium browsers Edge is really good, you cannot expect companies to suggest something like Vivaldi.

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                                        Exactly that

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                                        • K [email protected]

                                          Intune can manage Firefox add-ons btw, no need to use any extra systems.

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                                          Of course, but extra work is required for third party browsers vs just using windows built in browser designed to be managed using entraID / intune.

                                          Companies don’t like to pay extra.

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